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anecdotes. Please let me know if there are portions you feel that I
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George
From: IN%"tgollin@chelsea.ios.com" "tgollin" 2-DEC-1995 22:48:04.15 To: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: (no subject) Any relation to Gollin people from St. Louis, New York, South Africa, originally from Latvia ?
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 4-DEC-1995 16:30:09.07 To: IN%"patty@myrna.wustl.edu" CC: GOLLIN Subj: relatives??? Hi Patricia, I got an email message sent from tgollin@chelsea.ios.com a few days ago, who was curious if he/she and I are related. I have no idea who "tgollin" is (there aren't very many Gollin's in the US), and was curious about this. Unfortunately, the system bounced the email reply I sent, claiming not to recognize that user. tgollin asked about relatives in St. Louis; I did a net search on "gollin" and had some hits, including one for you, with an email address. I have no idea if we're related, since we're all far enough down the road from the original European emigrations to have dispersed ourselves considerably. Did "tgollin" contact you? Got a different email address for him/her? Whoever tgollin is, he/she stumbled across my home page and clicked on a "mailto" link. To avoid checking a final exam for my course (I'm an associate professor in the physics department at the University of Ilinois), I typed some family history into a file and linked it to my home page in case tgollin returns. If you're curious, you could take a look at it; the URL is about_me.html and it has a link back to my home page. If you care to, let me know if you think we're related- George Gollin Univ. of Illinois
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From: IN%"patty@myrna.wustl.edu" 5-DEC-1995 12:35:50.12 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: another Gollin Hi George, If we're related, then searching the Internet and science must run in the family. I had already found you by searching "Gollin" a few months ago, but haven't had time to follow up. Thanks for writing! I am a PhD student in Molecular Cell Biology at Washington University. You can check out the home page of my thesis laboratory at http://tyrone.wustl.edu/~keith/intro.html My father has been doing a lot of work on the Gollin geneology and he would likely be very interested in talking to you. Our family settled in Michigan after coming from Germany. Do you know anything about your family history? I didn't recognize any of the other Gollin's listed in the Internet. I haven't heard from the "tgollin". Did you know that there is a town in Germany with the name Gollin? It is just north of Berlin. I really think all of this is os fascinating. I'm curious about how you pronounce the name... we say Go-leen (emphasis on 2nd syllable)......of course other people tend to say it the way it looks (Gol-in) if they don't know us. {It's hard to type out pronunciations} Apparently you do know a lot about your history...I just looked at the homepage. wow! this is great! I see I am on the list. At home, we own 1 of those books on retirement (i think) by James Gollin which my father bought as a joke for my cousin James Gollin (who is neither person on your list). I have to go now......meeting with my advisor. I'll have to write more later. Patty
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 5-DEC-1995 15:42:12.33 To: GOLLIN CC: Subj: copy of Patty email Hi Patty, Thanks for the information! I got the U. Ill. library to send me a copy of all the books written by the Gollin's that were in its catalogue. So far only one of James Gollin's books has arrived, unfortunately without a book jacket/ author photo. The "about the author" info mentions he has "a collection of early musical instruments..." which makes me think he's the same guy who wrote those music-based suspense novels. We say "Gollin" so that it sounds like "Collins" except for the C -> G and s deletion. More often than not, people seem to read it so that it has a long o, like in "Poland". I don't know my family history down the Gollin side from before my grand- father left Russia, so I don't have any knowledge of Gollin's in Germany. My paternal grandmother (the nasty one, though I always liked visiting her when I was little) has roots in Berlin. My mother's fa,ily (Joseph's and Flaxman's) are German and Austrian. All the ones I know about left Germany during the 19th century, fifty years before the locals there got around to pruning the family tree. As far as I know, all my ancestors are Jewish. What about yours? Germany to Michigan sounds Lutheran, though I imagine it depends on when they left Europe. more later- George
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From: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" 6-DEC-1995 17:17:56.28 To: IN%"GOLLIND@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU", IN%"DGOLLIN@ATLAS.SOCSCI.UMN.EDU", IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU", IN%"73304.1534@COMPUSERVE.COM", IN%"MAGOLLIN@MICROSOFT.COM", IN%"PATTY@MYRNA.WUSTL.EDU", IN%"RGOLLIN@MOOSE.UVM.EDU", IN%"GOLLIN@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU", CC: Subj: are we relatives? Hi folks, I got some email last week from "tgollin@chelsea.ios.com" who was curious to see if we were related. I hunted around on the internet and found that there are a number of "Gollin's" out there, some of whom have email. Unfortunately, replies to his/her address keep boouncing back to me. Are we related? If you have world wide web access, you could take a look at about_me.html The page has links back to my home page. I've typed in some family history down the Gollin side of my ancestry, and listed what I've found on the web so far about other people with the same last name. (If email only, let me know and I'll send you the text.) Very briefly, the Gollin's in my family came to New York from Russia around 1890. We pronounce "Gollin" with the "o" and "i" as in "Collins". I am an associate professor in the physics department at the University in Illinois. I've had some email correspondence with Patricia Gollin, a molecular biology grad student at Wash. U.; I think we're probably not related. Oh- if I've got my info wrong, tell me and I'll correct it. If you're prone to paranoia, I'll certainly be happy to remove your data from the web page. For fun, I'll compile any new information I receive. cheers, George Gollin
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From: IN%"dgollin@atlas.socsci.umn.edu" "Douglas Gollin" 6-DEC-1995 20:15:26.43 To: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: Are We Relatives? Dear George Gollin: Thanks for your note; it's interesting to learn of other Gollins out there. I'm pretty sure we are related; my family too has Russian-New York- 1890s connections, and we have some details on the family tree. At some point back in the 1910s or 1920s, I believe, there were five or six Gollin brothers in the New York area. Things seem to have multiplied from there. A surprising number of Gollins seems to have surfaced in the academic world. I know that every time I check a card catalog or an on-line bibliographic source, I come across new Gollins. There's Albert, Alfred, Rita, Gillian, Robert, Richard, and a few more. My own father, James, is a writer (JGOLLIN@DELPHI.COM) and my brother is a trader in Houston (TIM@GOLLIN.COM) who has actually managed to get the family name into an e- mail site. I'm an economics grad student at Minnesota (soon to be on the job market), keeping up the academic tradition. (By the way, what branch of physics is your specialty?) I'd appreciate whatever family information you might have, and I'll make an effort to scrape together the details that I have. I haven't yet taken the time to install my Web browser, so I'd appreciate it if you could e-mail me the text of your family document. Also, I've taken the liberty of forwarding your note to my parents, who have some of the information in electronic form. I'll looking forward to hearing from you again. Sincerely, Doug Gollin / Douglas Gollin Dept. of Economics University of Minnesota dgollin@atlas.socsci.umn.edu
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 7-DEC-1995 13:09:55.18 To: DGOLLIN@ATLAS.SOCSCI.UMN.EDU CC: GOLLIN,JGOLLIN@DELPHI.COM,TIM@GOLLIN.COM Subj: some threads of family history Hi Doug, I'd be interested to hear any of the details of the (our?) family tree. I looked at the small amount of family memorabilia I have, and inserted more exact dates into that html document, which I'll append at the end of this. (There isn't much html mumbo-jumbo, so it shouldn't be too irritating to read as-is.) Is your father the writer who's written some suspense novels involving the members of an early-music consort? I read a couple of them a few years ago. They were fun. Is he the same fellow as the author of "Pay Now, Die Later"? I work on elementary particle physics experiments. I tend to be interested in measurements that look for flaws in the algebraic/conceptual structure of our theory of the fundamental interactions, rather than experiments that do spectroscopy (making improved measurements of particle masses and lifetimes.) The experiments have gotten very big since I started graduate school in 1975, and the sociology associated with doing "big science" is too complicated for my tastes. I left most "personal" information out of the html file, since I figured it was likely to be read by my students and by strangers. Stuff like "I like to cook", I play folk guitar (but I'm really rusty), I love chamber music, I met Melanie when we were presidential scholars (now there's an example of government eugenics that would have made the Germans proud) and so on isn't in the file. My father did some good things: he was active in Scouting, and coached Little League when I played. He was a nice man, gentle like his father, but pretty messed up by the mean things his mother would do to him. He was bright, and could have been a doctor/lawyer/scientist/... if his personal psychology had permitted. He read voraciously, a mix of non-fiction and plot-driven novels (airport books), and remarried into a situation that felt safe to him: his second wife (Carol) was blue collar, chain-smoked, and got fairly drunk every night. She was nice, though, and they were pretty happy together. I also left out stuff about the other side of my family, just because this all got started when the mysterious tgollin asked who I was. There are too many Joseph's to try to track down relatives. Besides, my mother's family is pretty close, and I know a lot more about them than I do about my father's. If I start collecting family history from other people, I could put it into a file without external links so you'd have to know where to find it to read it. It'd be reasonably private that way. I'll send a copy of this to your father and Tim directly. In case they have web access, the URL for the file is about_me.html while / is the URL for my home page. Here's that html file: cheers, George
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From: IN%"JGOLLIN@delphi.com" 7-DEC-1995 21:11:29.47 To: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: IN%"dgollin@atlas.socsci.umn.edu" Subj: We are related Hi George, I read your e-mail late this afternoon: I gather you got the address from Doug, and of course I'm glad you did. Certainly it is "our" family tree that you're sorting out; and in fact you and I are second cousins, even though you're 21 years younger than I (born in 1953, the year I graduated from Yale). Others in the family are better-informed than I am about the "begats." (We'll get to these others later.) But let me start by mentioning that your grandfather George was the youngest of five Gollin brothers: Alter, Louis, Harry, and Max being George's older siblings. My understanding is that the family emigrated 1947) was my grandfather as George was yours. Louis married Rebecca Berwitz (1888?-1972) and they had two children, my father, Joshua Abraham (1905-1974), and my aunt Goldie (1907- ). The Louis Gollins lived in New York City until about 1910, when they moved, first to Kansas City, MO and later to St. Louis. Louis Gollin, like George Gollin, worked for Metropolitan Life, as a salesman and later as the successful manager of a very large "debit" agency with many salesmen under him. Josh Gollin, my father, grew up in St. Louis, attended Washington University (but didn't graduate) and met and married my mother, Cecelia Millstone (1905-1951), in 1928 or 1929. In 1936, we left St. Louis, moving at first to Detroit and then to Scarsdale, NY. My one brother, Jeff (the one you found on Compuserve), was born in 1939. My dad entered the liquor business, did well, and remained in it until he retired in 1965. My only memory of your father was a nice one. The occasion was a visit we paid on the George Gollins in Brooklyn. It was a noisy gathering -- perhaps Max and Sue Gollin and their children, Eugene and Rita, were there -- and I was kind of out of it until your father took it on himself to entertain me by drawing me (I'll never forget it) a picture of a cowboy in full regalia shooting a rattlesnake with his trusty .45. Your dad might have been 18 or 19, I would have been 8 or 9. During the war, I'd hear from my mother and father that Sidney was "in the service." But my folks did most of their family visiting in St. Louis, during and after the war, and did not keep up with George, Bella and your father and mother. What you say of Sidney saddens me. I'd love to go on identifying Gollins (ours and others) for you, and of course we've visited your home page and will do so again and will be back in touch soon. But first let me introduce you to our cousin Sy -- Sylvan -- Gollin (1921- ), who's also an enthusiastic seeker and finder of Gollins. Sy lives in Claremont, California and is semi-retired from his work as a design engineer. (Gerry Gollin, the Yale Med surgeon, is Sy's son, and as you've guessed, Yvonne is Gerry's wife.) I don't know Sy's e-mail address, or even if he's online (though I can't believe he's not). But as soon as I find out, I'll pass it on to you, because Sy may well be able to fill in yet more information. Also, if you'll give us your snail mail address, we can forward to you the Gollin family tree that my wife Jane has worked up from a geneology computer program. We're at 71 Conant Valley Road, Pound Ridge NY 10576. Phone: 914-533-2585, in case you want to write or hear a new Gollin voice. Cheers, Jim Gollin
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From: IN%"SGollin@aol.com" 10-DEC-1995 11:54:05.76 To: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: IN%"jgollin@delphi.com", IN%"ggollin@hubnet.buffalo.edu" Subj: Introducing Myself Dear George, I am not sure how Jim Gollin established contact with you, but I am glad he gave me your e-mail address. What I consider to be the "original" Gollin clan is not very big and we should try to get to know each other. I am not as well-informed about the Gollin genealogy as I would like. In fact you may be more knowledgeable than I. In any case, I'll pass along a brief summary of the best information I have. My full name is Sylvan Gollin. I am nearly 75 and until about 1960 I knew of no Gollins in the United States other than those descended from the original five brothers. (I recently saw a Social Security printout that showed about 75 Gollins in the country.) The brothers (listed here in decreasing seniority) were: Alte or Morris, Louis (Jim's grandfather), Harry (my father), George (your grandfather) and Max. I do not remember their parents. But I have been told that the father (my grandfather) was a Russian army tailor who deserted and came to the US in the early 1870's. The only description I have is that he was very tall. Judging by the Gollins I have met, I would believe that. Many are well over 6 feet. The five brothers grew up in New York City. Morris then lived most of his life in New Jersey. Louis settled in St. Louis as a Metropolitan Life Insurance executive. My father remained in New York (I grew up in Brooklyn). George became a Metropolitan Life manager in Brooklyn, and Max also lived in Brooklyn. I lost touch with the Morris branch but I think most are in New Jersey and northern NY state. The oldest living member of the originals is Goldie Millstone, Louis' daughter and Jim's aunt. She lives in St. Louis. I am one of three children. My older sister and brother are dead. More about me later. You obviously know more about George's offspring. Max had three kids. All are living. Two sons are academics, probably emeritus by now, and a daughter. I am a semi-retired engineer, still doing consulting mainly in transportation and management areas. I have lived in Southern California for nearly 50 years after being stationed here in the Navy during the Second World War. My wife is Emily. We have one child, Gerald, married to Yvonne, with one child, Nicholas. They just moved to Buffalo from New Haven where Gerry and Yvonne were medical residents at Yale. Gerry is doing a two-year fellowship in pediatric surgery and Yvonne is a practicing perinatalogist. I will dig out some material I have on the rest of the family and send it along by mail. During the 1930's I was very close to your father. He was probably two years younger than I but we had common interests, photography being one. I lost touch with him after the war. The only contact with his branch came about 1965 when his mother, Belle, wrote to me. I suspect she died soon thereafter. I am very interested in knowing more about your father and what you are doing. Please keep in touch. My address: 4077 Olive Hill Drive, Claremont, CA 91711-1414 Telephone: 909-626-4285 FAX 909-620-0465
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 11-DEC-1995 13:37:40.92 To: IN%"SGollin@aol.com" CC: GOLLIN,JGOLLIN@DELPHI.COM,GGOLLIN@HUBNET.BUFFALO.EDU Subj: RE: Introducing Myself Dear Sylvan, This is wonderful! Suddenly I am beginning to find out about the previously unknown half of my family. My father never made an effort to stay in touch with his relatives, and I grew up having met Max once or twice. I have no memory of any other relatives besides Sidney's mother Belle (Bella?). Information about the family has been sketchy, and inaccurate. I knew of Alfred, but had been told that he's on the faculty at Oxford, and has been living in England. I had heard of Eugene, but didn't know anything about him. I didn't know of George's other brothers. Let me give you a quick sketch, with more details to follow in about two weeks, since we're heading east to visit my mother in a few days, I have a lot of work, etc. etc. (I'll write you a much longer description of my father then, when I can spend more time on it.) Here's how this all came about: I'm an associate professor in the physics department at the Univ. of Illinois in Urbana, so stuff I'm associated with gets onto the internet frequently. Someone with login name tgollin sent me a very brief email message asking if I was related to Gollin's in St. Louis, New York, South Africa, originally from Latvia. At the time I didn't know that Jim and I are related, though I had read a couple of his novels for fun a few years ago. I did a couple of net searches, and also requested that the campus library send me copies of most of the books by authors named "Gollin." The net searches turned up about four dozen "hits," half of which were to my stuff. Some of the search information came back with email addresses, and I realized from seeing the "about the author" page in Jim's "Pay Now, Die Later" book that he's written the nonfiction books as well as early-music-focused novels. I did some searches in journal article databases (mostly technology and medicine), and found references to papers by Gerald and Yvonne. Generally, when I know the university affiliation of someone, there are phone/email directories I can then locate for them. That gave me Doug's address, and also information about Alfred and Eugene. To my surprise, Alfred's been based at U.C. Santa Barbara for a long time, and Eugene's been at Univ. of Colorado in Boulder. I've given talks at both places during the last ten years, and would have looked them up. I have a copy of George's citizenship papers (he became a US citizen in 1906), as well as a marriage certificate, and a few other documents. He's listed as having been born in Russia to Simon and Rachel (Fidelman) on the marriage certificate. I had been told (by my father Sidney) that the family came to the US when George was three, so the arrival of Simon is probably around 1888, instead of in the 1870's. I like the story about Simon being an army tailor who went over the hill (sounds like good sense to me). I'll append to the end of this the information I've stuck in my world wide web home page about the family; it's incomplete, and not completely accurate, but I'll flesh it out and correct it over the next few weeks, and email it to people. I should also make photocopies of some of the documents and surface-mail them to everyone. My father died in 1986. He had had a rather hard time of things, due (I suspect) to the damage inflicted on him by Belle. I remember Belle from visits to her in Brooklyn with my father when I was young. It's really weird to run the clear childhood memories through an adult interpretation. I always had a good time there: Belle had a marvelous rolltop desk jammed full of paper clips, colored tape, rubber bands, pads,... and I used to fabricate airplanes from all the goodies she kept. The apartment was rather dark: drawn curtains in the bedroom, for example. She was a hypochondriac. Her bedside table was covered with bottles of pills, rubbing alcohol, and so on. I remember her discussing constantly the fine points of various aches and pains, and the recommended use of various remedies. She would stick pieces of colored tape over chips in the paint of her apartment. She went through a period, before George died, of hiding knives everywhere, since she was afraid people were "out to get her." This was her story, not my father's; she realized that this was pathological, and felt she had cured herself without the help of a psychiatrist. The place she lived, in the Bronx, was where they moved after George was demoted at Met Life: one bedroom, bathroom, small sitting room, and small kitchen. My father slept on a bed/couch in the sitting room, which was between the kitchen and bathroom, and had no privacy as a result. Dad had stories of how Belle would stay in the sitting room while he was trying to do his schoolwork, and would berate him as "stupid" since he needed to study. Belle made it clear that George (her husband) was more important to her than Sidney; she even said stuff like that to me about her husband/son priorities. (This is impossible for me to fathom: Melanie and I have a seven year old daughter, Cordelia. She's a terrific person, but more about that later. We don't discuss these things, but it's clear to Melanie and me that Cordelia's the one who gets the water in the liferaft.) There are various horror stories of Belle's interaction with my mother: apparently, the first time Dad brought my mother, Dolores, home to meet his parents (I think they had just become engaged), Belle took to her bed, and refused to get up to meet my mother. George, on the other hand, was sweet, and felt that anyone my father chose to love had to be a wonderful person, and was very welcoming. This Belle reconstruction is a matter of taking "back-bearings." I always liked seeing her, though I now realize how crazy and destructive she was. The hostility between her and my mother never subsided. She live until 1984, but spent the last 15-20 years in various nursing homes. My father was a mixed bag. He never made much money as a photographer, or in the gum machine business. I remember going with him watch him shoot pictures when I was home from college on vacation. Boy, he was good at it-- perfect sense of timing, and his portraits were exactly right. Once my mother began teaching full time, he pretty much stopped bringing in an income. As my mother began broadening her horizons, he started contracting his: didn't go to movies, didn't travel, and so on. Things got pretty strained at home, with Mom starting to be successful, and Dad closing up shop like that. There were some unfortunate things that happened: for example, Dad got into the money that Mom had saved to pay my college tuition one year, and spent it on a car to replace his after it went belly-up. My sister Olivia is four years younger than me, and was at home for the four years it took their marriage to dissolve, while I was safe at college. She's still working out (acting out?) various problems associated with this, though she is in a good marriage to a decent man (William Hoepfl), and has a delightful little boy (Lucas Joseph Gollin Hoepfl) who will be three in a few days. I think Dad-the-underachiever was a reaction (revenge?) to Belle. He never displayed enough insight into this to get clear of his problems. My father was a nice man, probably like his father was. He always thought I was wonderful, and launched me into life with this "deep down inside, I'm really special" self-image. He was more physical than my mother is: lots of hugs and such, and I see his gestures, and humor, in the way I play with Cordelia. He read voraciously, but tended to stay clear of novels with significant emotional texture. For example, he never would have gone near a book like Pat Conroy's "The Prince of Tides," or Updike's "Rabbit..." novels. He read as much nonfiction as fiction. Dad was active in Scouting: he was the scoutmaster of the troop I was in, and moved back down to cub scouts after I was in college. He was a good scoutmaster: none of that mickey-mouse pretend you're in the army crap. The kids in the troop liked him very much, and found him friendly, fun, and approachable. He was good at it: the boy scout troop churned out Eagle Scouts at an impressive (per capita) rate, and the troop was good at all those camping/outdoor/etc. activities. I remember we came in first place in an all-Nassau county jamboree which probably had a hundred troops competing over the course of a weekend. Dad remarried a nice woman named Carol who was a secretary; he met her through scouting. In a lot of ways, Carol was safe: she wasn't ambitious, or interested in exploring. She was friendly, very blue collar, chain-smoked, never read, watched TV all evening when she wasn't doing scouting activities, went to bed drunk many (most, I think) nights. I liked her, but I especially liked how happy Dad was with her. (Dad didn't smoke, or drink more than a glass of wine once in a while.) Let me wrap this up: I'll send more later. Oh- about me: I went to Harvard from 1971-1975 as a physics major, then to Princeton from 1976-1980 as a graduate student. I had met Melanie Loots when she and I were presidential scholars around when we graduated from high school. I was one of two from New York, Melanie was one of two from Iowa. Melanie also went to Harvard, then Princeton, doing chemistry. We were involved in college, and this continued in graduate school, in spite of the considerable stress associated with grad school. We got married in 1978, both landed nice postdoc jobs at the University of Chicago. Melanie moved into pharmaceutical chemistry, working first for Searle in Skokie. We moved to New Jersy in 1983, where I was an assistant professor at Princeton, doing experimental high energy physics and teaching. Melanie did anti-hypertensives development at Squibb, just outside Princeton, but moved out of chemistry into their information systems group after five years of benchwork. Cordelia was born in Princeton in 1988. My mother and two of my aunts had moved to central New Jersey, so we were close to the Jospeh side of my family while we were there. I landed an associate professor (tenured) position at U. Ill., and we moved here in 1989 when Cordelia was 11 months old. Melanie had a position at NCSA (National Center for Supercomputing Applications, the people who brought Mosaic into the world) when we arrived, and is now the Associate Director for Applications there. It's fine living here: the towns have a combined population of 100,000 and a classical music scene that is first rate. (We go to about a dozen concerts a year; they're all international- class preformances like the Chicago Symphony, Julliard Quartet, and so on.) There are loads of parks, and the restaurants are looking up (an Indian restaurant just opened, and two Thai restaurants will open in January or February). We like to travel, and have taken Cordelia to France and Italy three times, generally in association with a conference that pays one of our airfares. We both cook well, though I seem to do most of the cooking these days. (I am competent at Thai food, pretty good with Chinese food, and best at northern Italian fare.) Nicely, Melanie's cooking doesn't overlap that much with mine, so the amount of variety is pretty good. We both like to read, though fatigue from work and childrearing seem to interfere with that a great deal. Unlike my father, I like best books with a big emotional jolt, though I really like all those silly Tom Clancy novels. My home life is very good. Melanie is in all fundamental ways my best friend. We don't fight much, and usually catch problems at early stages and get them straightened out pretty well. We've worked out when it's appropriate to have a "spheres of influence" approach to things (for example, gardening: she does the outdoor plants, I do the indoor plants) and when we can collaborate smoothly (matters concerning Cordelia, planning of leisure activities, money issues). Here's address/phone information for us, then I'll append the World Wide Web file. George Gollin 813 West University Avenue Champaign, IL 61820 (217) 398-3360 (home) (217) 333-4451 (work) (217) 333-4990 (fax at work) gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu (email, obviously) / (world-wide-web home page) about_me.html (link to the family info) So- I'll be in touch! George
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From: IN%"73304.1534@compuserve.com" "Jeff Gollin" 11-DEC-1995 15:28:26.57 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: are we relatives? To: George Gollin Fr: Jeff Gollin Maybe. Our family story has a 6' 7" Russian tailor shipping his sons (Alter, Louis, Harry George and Max) off to America in the late 1800's to avoid conscription. Louis was my grandfather. They first settled in Bayonne, NJ. It gets a little muddy after that, but one or two brothers stayed in the Newark/South Orange, NJ area, others moved across the river to Brooklyn and Louis moved up the ladder at Metropolitan Life to become a midwest rep headquartered in St. Louis. I note reference to George and Belle's son, Sidney who was an army photographer. He apparantly had a son named George who became a physicist. Is that possibly you? Major gap in family history has to do with ancestors of that Russian tailor and also is very short spouse. If we're related, any help here? Always glad to hear from a Gollin. Hope we're related. Regards, Jeff G. PS We also received a note from a Britisher named Gollin with roots in an island off Yugoslavia called Lisse (or Vis) and possibly earlier to Bohemia. Others in the family say we're not related, but you never know. Know anything about this?
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 11-DEC-1995 16:35:11.49 To: IN%"73304.1534@compuserve.com" CC: GOLLIN Subj: RE: are we relatives? Hi Jeff, Yep, we're related. My grandfather George had brothers Alter (Morris), Louis, Harry, and Max. I've been hearing the last few days from people who turn out to be cousins: first-once-removed, second, and second-once-removed. I had heard from Sylvan, who's Harry's son, that the five brothers' father was a Russian army tailor who deserted (makes good sense to do that, I think.) I had assumed that the family went straight to Brooklyn, and it's interesting to see that they went to Bayonne first. Sidney, George's only child, enlisted in the army signal corps, and worked as a radio operator in the relative safety of Omar Bradley's headquarters. He did photography as a very serious hobby, and tried to make a livin at it after the war. He was really good at it, and his portrait work was exactly right: facial expressions with life and animation, and a perfect sense of just when to click the shutter. I'm Sid's son; I was born in Queens in 1953. My sister Olivia was born in 1957, and now lives with her husband and little boy just north of Dallas. I'm an associate professor in the U. Ill. physics department, and do experimental high energy physics as well as teaching. Let me append a copy of what I sent to Sylvan earlier today. It mentions how this all got started, and has a lot of information about my father, who was very close to Sylvan before the war. (It's funny how "the war" doesn't refer to Vietnam in this context.) My father never kept in touch with his relatives, and I had very little knowledge of who the Gollin's were/are until a week ago. There's a Patricia Gollin, probably not a relative, whose Gollin ancestors are German (there's a town named "Gollin", pronounced "golleen" near Berlin, she tells me). Patty pointed me to your email address, picked up from a couple of newgroup messages. At this point, I'm collecting information, since this is all so new to me, and will send out some kind of summary/family tree dispatch in a couple of weeks. Do you have world-wide-web access via compuserve? If so, you could take a look at about_me.html where I've been putting family info as I find it. So the Russian tailor's wife was short, eh? I my grandfather's 1948 driver's license, and it gives his height as 5'7". According to my mother, most of the Gollin's are tall, so that's where those genes were from. About the only information on George's parents I have is from George's and Belle's marriage license. It says that his parents were Simon and Rachel (though it might be Rita); Rachel's maiden name was Fidelman, and George's place of birth was listed as Russia. I have George's 1906 citizenship certificate. I don't know anything about the Lisse/Bohemia connection. More later-- cheers- George
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From: IN%"73304.1534@compuserve.com" "Jeff Gollin" 12-DEC-1995 07:54:25.05 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" "George Gollin 217.333-4" CC: Subj: Family Tree George. Found your Home Page. Looks like we're second cousins. I'm J. Geoffrey (Jeff) Gollin, 7 years younger than brother, Jim. I live in Holmdel, NJ with my wife Bryna. We have two grown sons, Stu (Lee Stuart) Gollin who lives in Philly and aspires to be a jazz or rock musician and Dan (Daniel Barry) Gollin who's in his first year of med school at UMDNJ - Newark. Bryna is a modern psychoanalyst of some note. She's affiliated with the Institute of Modern Psychoanalysis in NYC, teaching, supervising in addition to analyzing. I run a small Holmdel ad agency. Lest you and others in the Gollin "cyber family" incorrectly perceive me as "the frivolous Cardinal fan" of the family, that's only part of the picture. I'm VP of our local Chamber of Commerce, a trustee of the NJ Association of Environmental Commissions (ANJEC) and sit on Holmdel's enviro commissions. In 1972, I attended the Democratic NAtional Convention as a McGovern delegate-alternate. Other family tidbits. Our mother was Cecelia. Her father was Louis Millstone. Her mom was Mary Apter. The Apters came from Dvinsk ( a small Latvian town south of Riga and now called Dauganvplis). Millstone ancestory is a little murky. Cecelia had three brothers, Isadore (a well-respected community leader and contractor in St. Louis) and Bob and Edgar (both deceased). Isadore is married to our father's only sister, Goldie Gollin. Both are still living. They had 2 children - Mary Ann (Jim's age; deceased) and David (58 yrs. old, living in Vermont). We believe that Simon Gollin was a 6' 7" Russian tailor garrisoned in Dvinsk after many years of travel. He married a tiny 4' 9" woman and emigrated to the US with his 5 sons. I'd like to know more about where these two folk came from. Key source of much of this info is Sylvan Gollin, 4077 Olive Hill Dr., Claremont, CA 91711. Gotta run. Regards, Jeff Gollin
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From: IN%"73304.1534@compuserve.com" "Jeff Gollin" 12-DEC-1995 09:42:52.38 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" "George Gollin 217.333-4" CC: Subj: Family Tree George: Don't know if last e-mail note was confusing. Some family structure. Your grandfather, George's brother, Louis married Rebecca Berwitz. They had a son (Josh, my Dad) and a daughter Goldie. Goldie married Isadore Millstone (son of Louis Millstone and Mary Apter). Josh married Isadore's sister Cecelia (my Mom). (Weddings took place on different dates). Isadore and Cecelia had two brothers, Bob and Edgar. Isadore and Goldie are still alive. Bob, Edgar, Cecelia and Josh are not. Josh was a top executive in the liquor industry (Calvert and Schenley) for many years. I'm probably in the minority, but I believe that all Gollins are related. The name "Gollin" is pretty rare, and in the northeast, the odds are better than 2 to 1 that when you run across a Gollin, it's a relative. For this reason, I'd love to discover that point in the geneology where the two or three branches that apparantly can't find a common ancestor come together (at least a generation or two before the Russian tailor). Perhaps Sylvan shared with you the letter he received from England (The Lissa Gollins). Hope this helps. Like what you're doing. Will check your home page from time to time. Regards, Jeff G.
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From: IN%"73304.1534@compuserve.com" "Jeff Gollin" 13-DEC-1995 08:10:12.37 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: RE: Family Tree George: Just a thought that might explain the Germany to Russia mystery: The borders between Russia, Germany, Prussia, Poland etc. kept shifting with every invasion and skirmish. My grandmother (Apter) once reflected that her family (in Dvinsk) had to pay taxes to two countries because the border ran through the center of her house. (Then again, she had a reputation of bending a few facts to embellish a story, but you never know). Regards, Jeff PS Hope you received (and will find helpful) the copies I faxed to you of the family tree that Jim Gollin's wife, Jane prepared a year or so ago.
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From: IN%"egollin@psych.colorado.edu" "Eugene S. Gollin" 13-DEC-1995 15:27:52.33 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: RE: Hello- I'm Sidney Gollin's son Hi, I'm Gene Gollin. Sidney was my first cousin, as is Sylvan. Fred, at UCSB, recently retired is my younger brother. I also have a sister in Southern California, Rita Courtney. My family and I have been in Boulder since 1968. I retired from the Univerity in 1992. As children, your father and I often played together. He lived in a much more affluent part of Brooklyn than we did. My father was Max. He was the youngest of five suriving brothers. Five other children, girls and boys died efore the family left Russia. The five brothers in order of age were, Alte, Louis (James' Grandfather), Harry (Sylvan's father), George, and Max (my father). During WWII Syndney and my brother Fred were in Europe at the same time. Your Dad was an Army Photog and my brother was a forward observer with an armoured field artillery battalion. I was stationed in China as a communications officer with the USAF. You are correct about Belle. She destroyed George and did a pretty good job destroying Sydney. He should have gone to graduate school in Physics. He was a whiz, as a kid, with math, photography, science, etc. We were all saddened by his failure to achieve what was clearly in his capacity. You seem to have made up for his lack. I know you have a sister. How is she? My best to your mother.Keep in touch.
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From: IN%"patty@myrna.wustl.edu" 13-DEC-1995 15:46:59.29 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: RE: lotsa progress on locating relatives Wow this is great. I'll give you my Dad's email account so that you can ask him all these questions too. I don't know of any Yugoslavs or Bohemians on our side. Also, did I tell you about my cousin's business in Michigan who has a web site you might want to look at. My grandfather started the business (Gollin Block and Supply). http://ourworld.compuserve.com:80/homepages/JAMES_GOLLIN Here's my Dad's email: BWKJ21A@prodigy.com His name is Norman Take care, Patty
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From: IN%"73304.1534@compuserve.com" "Jeff Gollin" 14-DEC-1995 13:04:58.28 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" "George Gollin 217.333-4" CC: Subj: More Family Tree Hi, George: A few other recollections: 1. Goldie (Gollin) Millstone held a Gollin-only reunion of sorts at Josh's apartment in NYC around 1972. A couple of recollections: (a) one relative was a 70 year old McGovern supporter who leafleted election literature on Lexington Ave. (b) My brother and I tend to speak in rapid bursts in sort of a short-hand, completing each other's sentences. To my amazement, there were 20 or 30 Gollin relatives in that apartment all speaking in the same way, even though many had never met before. (c) I remember meeting Alfred. And there was a fellow named Leo. 2. I remember as a kid meeting a Sue Gollin and a Rita Gollin (they'd probably be in their nineties by now). 3. There's a family comic-tragedy legend about twin brothers: Mike and Ike. (I think they were Gollins and not Berwitzes, but I can't be sure). I do remember meeting them and that they were big hockey fans. The story holds that they were both roofers. One of them fell off a roof one day and landed with nary a sketch. Soon thereafter, he was showing a fellow roofer how he had done it, fell off the roof again and this time perished. 4. In the late sixties, I was in Woodbridge, NJ trying to find out whether or not my Abraham & Strauss credit card was still valid when the fellow behind the counter said to me: "You're not related to Louis Gollin, are you? You look just like him." He went on to say that he knew a Louis Gollin who owned a clothing store in Bayonne called "Gollin's Mens Store." I never made it to Bayonne, but evidence of the store was verified by a close friend who hailed from that city. My guess is that both Louis the clothier and my late grandfather were probably named for a common deceased ancestor (whomever that might have been). 5. At Newark Airport on my way to (Jim's son) Tim Gollin's wedding in Houston, the ticket clerk at the gate says to me, "The rest of your family has already checked in." She points to a family I never saw before in my life, saying "They're over there." Turns out they were part of the South Orange branch of our family and were, by coincidence, heading for Houston to attend a bar mitzvah. Small world. It's amazing how fragments of memory come back to you. Perhaps these will provide clues toward filling in a one or two missing gaps in the "tree.". Regards, Jeff Gollin PS I once visited Urbana, test-marking this horrendus Rum and Hawaiin Punch concoction called "Rumdinger." I liked both Urbina and Champaign a lot. They were what I always visualized college towns in the midwest to be like.
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From: IN%"egollin@psych.colorado.edu" "Eugene S. Gollin" 15-DEC-1995 13:20:17.46 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: RE: Fred never answers his e-mail. Or reads it for that matter. I knew and respected Roger Brown. Herrnstein was another bag of tricks. None of the names you mention ring a bell but they may be related. Alte had lots of sons and daughters who were old enough to be my uncles and aunts eeven though they were first cousins. I don't remember their names. I think there was a Willie and a Barry and at least three sisters. One, Etty was married to a man named Mike Rogow. They were my parents age. They had two sons and a daughter. The boys were Seymour and Bobby. I think Bobby became an academic but I'm not sure. Seymour was Sid's Sylvan's and my age. I spent some time with Seymour but they lived in Newark so it was mostly weekend visits. Louis had two children, also much older than me. Josh and Goldie. I do not remember Goldie's married name but her husband was a builder-archetect in St. Louis. Goldie was a fine woman. She may still be alive. Harry had three children. His wife's name was Bertha. Their eldest was Buddy (Bernard), Geraldine and Sylvan. I adored Buddy who was an older cousin. He was a LaCrosse player, as were Sylvan and I and Fred later on. Buddy was killed in a car accident when still very young. Geraldine married and had two children. She died of MS some years ago. Sylvan would know more about them. My three children are Ann, David, and Adam. Ann works for Kaiser-Permanente as a PA. David is doing a post-doc in Bio-Chem at the University of Georgia, and Adam, the youngest is an attorney in Denver. He spent seven years as a prosecuter. My wife Janet was the adminstrator of a Montessori school in Boulder for twenty years before retiring. Enough for today. If I can answer any questions please ask. I will try to reach Dolores via e-mail. What is Melanie's discipline?
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From: IN%"73561.2647@compuserve.com" "JAMES P. GOLLIN" 15-DEC-1995 20:18:23.80 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" Subj: Are we related? (I got your address from Patricia Gollin) Dear George: I'm James Paul Gollin the president of Gollin Block & Supply Co. in Michigan. I have talked to Patty Gollin my cousin about you and have relayed information to my father Paul and my Uncle Norman(Patricias father). Norman is working of our family tree and has more information than I do. I have visited cousins that still live in Berlin, Germany. Dr. Kate Gollin (85 years old taught at University Berlin) and Dr. Tilman Gollin (Medical doctor, son of Kate and Hans, 42 years old) . Did you know that there is a town in East Germany about 75 km north of Berlin with the name Gollin. I believe we came from a town just north east of Gollin called Grandenitz (about 13.50 degrees east and 53.10 north). George I will try to get you more information about our family tree. I'm glad you contacted me. Have Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family. Sincerely; James P. Gollin - Michigan GO BLUE!
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From: IN%"gollin@med.pitt.edu" "Susanne Gollin" 18-DEC-1995 06:55:44.85 To: IN%"GOLLIN@med.pitt.edu", IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: RE: Are we related? I don't know if we are related. My father's parents came from somewhere between Minsk and Pinsk in about 1903 to Milwaukee. Their name was Igolnikov which was changed to Gollin at Ellis Island. There also were cousins, but I dont know if their name was Gollin. I grew up in Lincolnwood, Illinois, but we had no Gollin relatives in Chicago area. It would be fun to figure it out, but I seem to be no help. I do have a cousin in southern Calif. who was interested when she was younger in geneology, but I dont know how to find her except by calling my mother who keeps in touch with everyone. i will get a phone number if she has it and send it to you. happy hunting and happy holidays. i rarely use the pitt email and usually have this one forwarded to dept. server, but i have been in germany on pseudosabbatical, so this was forwarded there. susanne
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From: IN%"Gollin@aol.com" 20-DEC-1995 09:59:25.19 To: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: Gollins Dear George, I've just read your Website. You appear to be the volunteer keeper of our common patronymic, so I'll unload something of what I know about it to you. You are aware of course that Family Trees are in fact dense thickets once one abandons homunculus theory, and abandons as well the more persistent Good Blood from a Single Distinguished Ancestor models. And our wives' names and dynastic linkages multiply mercurially with each new generation. Moreover, by simple geometric progression backward one sees quickly that everyone on earth must be related to everyone else only fifteen or twenty or so generations ago, not even back to the middle ages (barring incest, which is more probable than even the odd pregnancy from the odd rape). The search for Kunta Kinte (Alex Haley's famous docudramatic book and TV called *Roots*, that inspired so much geneological digging) was in fact arbitrary selection, of which straw in which haystack one wants to call the needle. You also already know from my header above that I unwittingly monopolized the AOL "Gollin" handle a few years ago, by using no first initial. Son James (another James, not yet mentioned on your homepage, JGOLLIN@AOL.COM) has a British friend stirring up his geneology for fun, and a few days ago it brought us a phone call from a Norman Gollin, in Rochester NY since 1947 (we've been since 1955), who referred to your Website; and now Jim has too. We are closing in on you. Jim may be writing you at this moment. Norman Gollin is accent on last syllable as in 'colleen' -- we are accent on first like you, rhyming with Collin like you. Norman thinks he's of French Huguenot origins possibly fled to Gollin, town north of Berlin, and is Lutheran from way back. I'm Jewish by descent on both sides, sort of Russian on both sides. I doubt Norman and I are related. But.....? The deconstructionists would say the name alone relates us indissolubly. Don't reply to this AOL address -- I check it only when I need Web graphics. Use my Edu address, FFFF@DB1.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU From my home my Univ. provides only a primitive VAX account (I've seen what your UI accounts have at home, space age to our stone age), with a clumsy LYNX for its Web Browser. But it does most of what I want and it's free. OK, enough preliminary. Mostly facts now, and anecdotes another time, if any. I'm Richard M. Gollin, 68, b. 1927 in Chicago, raised in NYC -- mainly Far Rockaway, Professor Emeritus of English and Film Studies at the University of Rochester, author of the Clough work you mention and the film work too (much more of both, and other, of course, but what are your online sources?). Married to Rita K. Gollin, b. 1928 in Brooklyn and raised there, the Hawthornian you also mention, now a Distinguished Professor of English at the State University of New York College at Geneseo, with a list of her own publications also far larger, but what of it. She was a Kaplan, and her mother a Hurwitz, but we are being patriarchal phallocentrists here, so it doesn't matter. My mother was a Kupferschmidt, Coopersmith on arrival here, and her father David took her as a babe from Odessa to NYC in about 1895. That's the distaff origins. My father Morris Gollin, ne Galinsky, was born in 1885 possibly in Vladimir, then Russia, though that may be the town he once mentioned where he did his apprenticeship as a bookbinder. Drafted into and deserted the Czar's army in 1905 to come to this country rather than go to the Russo-Japanese warfront. He went directly to Utica, in upstate NY, where he had relatives (there are Galinsky names in the phone book, and we still know of one long ago married, with another name, and widowed, and very old, but no others). Renamed Gollin on his naturalization papers (why GOLLIN spelled that way??? -- it's a stretch from Galinsky -- he had other known relatives already "Gollin" ?-- we won't ever know) His first job was in Little Falls, NY, near Utica. Eventually he moved to Chicago and became a prosperous owner of department stores there, in Gary, and in Milwaukee. There are relatives there, barely ever noted, none of them Gollins. Married my mother Ida in 1923. Gradually lost the businesses during the great depression, and moved to the Rockaways with his small children during the thirties. Learned how to contract housing tracts and became a "Builder" on Long Island until WWII, then worked a drill press at Republic Aircraft through the war. Died in 1955. His small children. My sister Gloria born 1925, attended Queens College, NY, worked after graduation, and married Mark Charness of Montreal, QUE, now of Toronto and Palm Beach. They have five children. One in geriatric Psychology at the U. of Fla, one a neurologist and Assoc. Prof. at the Harvard Medical School, mainly in brain research, and three others, one a daughter, who are merely doing very well as MBA's and those things appertaining. They have children. But they are all Charnesses, so we'll set them aside. Me, Richard., known as Dick, born 1927, also Queens College, then University of Minnesota, Ph.D. 1959 (wife Rita's academic geneology the same, but Ph.D. 1961), then Oxford University (where I first heard of the UCSB Alfred Gollin, then a tutor at St. Catherine's Society, where I was attached while a Fulbright Scholar -- much later met him briefly while we were both researching at the Brit. Museum). Taught at Colgate Univ. and at the Univ. Rochester since 1955. Victorian literature, and founded and directed film studies at the UR. Retired 1990, but taught an intro mob course until last year. "Emeritus," incidentally, is not the honorific Latin in seems. It's what was written next to Roman soldiers' names when they was discharged, and means "Paid Off." We have three chldren. The eldest is Kathryn Ann, b 1955, now a production editor for Prentice Hall, and married to Steve Marshak, Assoc. Prof of Geology at the Univ Illinois, both living in Champaign (he's MARSHAK@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU, and has won one of your big prizes for teaching undergraduates, and you may have sat on committees together, though I think he'd have noticed your name if so). They have two children, who could be related to yours downstream in the gene pool, David 10, and Emma 7 (about your Cordelia's age). Steve's father was Robert Marshak, the physicist once Chair at Univ. Rochester who did impt work with weak interactions I'm told, for ten years President of CUNY, then Dist. Prof. at Va PolyTech, his last book posthumously published just a year or two ago. Approach carefully right now -- Steve has this past weekend brought his mother from Fla to Champaign, dying from terminal cancer, and she is settling into their house. They are all of them "Marshak".not "Gollin." The next of our children you have caught twice, Michael A. Gollin, born 1957, married to Jill Dickey of Keokuk, Iowa. He's a Princeton undergraduate, then in Zurich at the E.T.H. an M.S. in biochemistry -- he indeed is the"M.Gollin" who did the drosophila study, then a law degree at Boston Univ., and the author indeed of those biodiversity studies. Does Environmental and Patent law in Washington, D.C. (no longer with Keck, Mahin, but on his own, "Of Counsel" with Spencer and Frank), lives in Bowie, Md, and has two kids: Natasha Gaia Gollin, b 1991, and Maxwell Walker Gollin, b 1994. There anyhow are two more Gollins for you. For us too. He's now changing his e-mail address; it may still be MGOLLIN@KECK.COM. The youngest you've missed, James David Gollin, b 1959, Princeton, Johns Hopkins Sch. for Adv. Intl Study (SAIS) M.A., then Intl. Univ. of Japan M.B.A (or whatever the Japanese equivalent), investment broker in Japanese equities with Morgan Stanley and then his own company until he had enough money to satisfy him, then retired to Santa Fe, where he is now a travel writer, photographer, and adviser on eleemosynary affairs to several foundations. Not married. JGOLLIN@AOL.COM Back up one generation now, to the third of Morris and Ida's three children. Albert E. Gollin, born 1930, Queens College and Ph.D from Columbia in Sociology, did have the academic connections you mention but not importantly -- mainly he does field research into Public Opinion, first for the Peace Corps and AID on contract, later for a Newspaper Research Bureau (or whatever it's called, the organization formed by many newspapers to conduct ongoing research into who reads what where why), retired last year and currently is a Senior Fellow at Columbia. He's GOLQC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU. Lives NYC. Distinguished enough at his profession, and honored for it, even though only my kid brother. Did indeed marry Gillian Lindt Gollin, later again Gillian Lindt so she could have her own career unconfused with his, a Columbia Ph.D in sociology also, the book on the Moravians you caught, chair in Soc. at American Univ for a while, then Prof. of Religion at Colunbia, Dean of Grad. Studies at Columbia, and now Dean of General Studies at Columbia -- work on the cultural sociology of religious cults, Dionysians, Moravians, Moonies, Jonestown, etc. They divorced, amicably, and Albert is remarried, to Ann Gollin, who has her own children by a former marriage. Albert and Gill's two children are Karen Gollin, married to David Keck (Yale, and I think a Harvard Ph.D. in Religion). She runs the Phillipine programs and projects of the Asia Society I think it is, in Manila, and meanwhile finishes a Ph.D. in Chinese history at (or eventually, from, Harvard). She may still be a Gollin. And her brother Mark Gollin (MARKGO@MICROSOFT.COM), an ex hacker-geek ex-Columbia, who lives in Seattle for obvious reasons and indeed rarely answers mail, and also arrives at airports too late to make his planes, and other such things young unmarried men with their own undistracted inner lives do and don't do. Those are the surviving and engendered patronymic Gollins at this end, that I know of. My sister Gloria may know of un-Gollined close relatives; among the North American Aborigines like ourselves, women tend to be the keepers of knowledge of extended families. I'll ask her about about a Goldie and a Max, names that echo in your ancestry and in my head in mine. Son Jim has the scent and may follow this further. Copy him anything you tell me. Remarkable how many academics and advanced degrees there are among these Gollins and their highly significant others. Or is this a function of the research tools employed, namely internet directories of higher education, libraries, etc.? Have you been in the Salt Lake City geneological archive? Or Yad Vashem's? Do you see any linkages between us? One good Gollin deserves another, no doubt. At the least, you can correct your Website. Are there any of us worth knowing? Yours, Dick Gollin Ok, one anecdote. When I first went to Oxford, in 1953, the British "angry young man" social transformation of the class system hadn't yet happened, and to be of "good family" was still an asset in certain circles, if not a requirement. Americans were mostly exempt, not altogether. The Master of St. Catherine's, Alan Bullock, a distinquished historian (biog of Hitler, etc.) had us to tea and chat. A man of imposing stature, and I was on my sophisticated best behavior. We stood by the fire sipping, and mentioned the usual acquaintances in common, as any academic can. He took note of my name. "Gollin. Hmm. Unusual name." "Yes, I suppose it is." "You know I have an American on my staff also named 'Gollin'." "Yes, I'd noticed." "Not related though?" "No, not that I know of." "Family also came from Russia?" "Yes." "1848? Expatriate?" "No, 1905. Deserter." My finest conversational moment, especially if you know the cachet of "1848" in European history. It tells us incidentally that Alfred Gollin's American ancestral roots are two generations deeper than either of ours. That's a lot more proliferation of folks to invite to the First Millenial Gollin Family Organization Barbecue!
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From: IN%"BWKJ21A@prodigy.com" 21-DEC-1995 21:49:37.83 To: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: Are we related Hi George: I received your e-mail dated 12/15/95. Patricia said you may be writing to me. I suspect that we are not related for reasons that will become obvious. My family is mentioned in your letter under "other Gollins". The second James mentioned on page 6 is my nephew. He now manages the Concrete Block business that my father started and where I spent long hours working while in grade school and high school. As you already know Patricia is our daughter. My wife is Mary Ann. After graduation from Bay City Central High school, I attended the U of M and earned a degree in Electrical Engineering. In 1941 I started my first job with Taylor Instrument Cos. in Rochester, NY. Taylor had two divisions, Industrial and Comercial. I was employed by the Industrial Division that manufactured process control instrumentation having worked in Sales Engineering, Applications Engineering, Engineering Research, Design Engineering and Marketing and then retirement in 1980. Rochester is where I met Mary Ann Nowack who gecame my wife in 1958. Now for my Ancestors. While visiting our last known relatives in Germany in 1990, I learned that we had been Huguenots. A family tree given to me some time ago starts with Fredrich Collin b. 1717 who maried Gottliebe Besckow. They had a son Martin Gollin. On my 1990 visit I inquired about the spelling of Fredrich's last name. Was the C just a bad G or was the name actually Collin. This is when I found out that the C was correct and the Collins were Huguenots. From here all the last names in the Tree is spelled with a G. Martain b.1757 married Dorthea Elizabeth Kersten. They had a son Martin Frederich b. 1787. Martin F. married Johanna Caroline Pritzkow. They has a son Aygust Fredrich Wilhelm b.1818. He married Maria Christina Eichman. They had three sons, Aughst F., Karl Ffredrich Gustav and Gustav Rudolf. August came to the USA Circa 1866, lived in Bay City Michigan foe a while and then moved tp Unionville. MI. Karl remained in Berlin Germany. His son Johannes married Dr. Phil. Kathe Axhausen and they had a son Tilmann. Johannes (Hanns) taught painting, drawing, and crafts at a school in Berlin. Hanns died in 1975. Kate and Tilmann now live in Berlin and are the two relatives that visited in 1990. Dr. Kathe taught Physiology, English, French, Italian and Gymnastics at the same school where Hanns taught. Tilmann attended medical school and is now practicing in heart related illnesses. Gustav, my grandfather, came to the USA in 1881. He was a Baker, could not find employment and eventually became a farmer. He married Anna Hawert. They had several children Otto (myfather), Alma, Anna, Walter, Emma and Paul. Otto started the concrete block business mentioned above. He did not like ferming. Various employment included coal miner, Michigan National Guard, fitrman on the RR, carpenter at the Pioneer boat works, home and barn building and lastly the Block business. Now back to Germany. The Gollins lived in Lychen, Hardenbeck, Grandenitz,Herzfelde,Gramzow, Hummelspring and Friedrichswalde. In the midst of all these is a city named Gollin. It is on route 109 going north out of Berlin. At this time I do not know if there is any connection between our name and that of the City. Many ancestors lived in Friedrichswalde which is about five miles south -east of Gollin. I recognized the names Richard and Rita as being in the Rochester telephone directory. Gave them a call and mentioned your e-mail communication and gave them your address. You may hear from them. I am also senting them a copy of your letter to me. This has been interesting. Norman
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 26-DEC-1995 21:42:53.57 To: SGOLLIN@AOL.COM,JGOLLIN@DELPHI.COM,73304.1534@COMPUSERVE.COM,EGOLLIN@PSYCH.COLORADO.EDU CC: GOLLIN Subj: greetings, and more email from (non?)relatives Dear Sy, Jim, Jeff, and Eugene, We're dealing with the usual post-holiday load at the moment: laundry, blown babysitting arrangements, electronic paralysis of the Vax cluster that handles my email while the system manager was away,... so I haven't done much to integrate recent geneological information into the web site. I received surface mail from Sy and from Jim; thank you. The first issue of "Early Music America" is very nicely done, and I am interested in the family sleuthing from Sy. I'm getting behind in the information processing, and have some catching up to do. Let me pass on what has arrived recently. I sent a paper copy of the information in the web page to Albert Gollin, since I found an address for him, good for this year, at Columbia. Right about when it arrived in New York, I got an email message from Richard, Albert's older brother, which I have appended to this message. I'm curious if they are related to us one generation further back than Simon: there are some features of his family history that sound familiar. His father Morris was born in 1885. Could this Morris have been a first cousin of Alter, et al? If Simon's (deceased?) father was named Morris, then both Albert's father and Alter might have been named after their common grandfather. Morris was drafted into the Russian army, went over the hill in 1905. Amusingly, this Gollin family has a member living in Champaign, about a half mile from us. Their family name in Russia was Galinsky. I heard from a couple of members of the the Michigan Gollin (pronounced differently from us) family. They have pretty good date/place information on their genealogy, and it seems far from ours. I've added their information after the copy of Richard's message. In addition, I received a reply from Susanne Gollin, the cell biologist mentioned in the web page. Here original family name was Igolnikov, and I have added her brief message at the end. ---(messages are elsewhere in this file)---
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From: IN%"Tim@gollin.com" 27-DEC-1995 13:20:35.93 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: More Gollins More Gollins To GOLLIN@uihepa.HEP.UIUC.EDU Your email to my brother Doug just reached me . . I sent you the email with the missing return address. (We have an Internet router which is highly flaky.) The family history you sent is great . . hopefully Doug has let you know something about our side of the family, including the information that James and Jane are our parents. My wife Mary and I have three kids of our own: Andrew, 6; Elizabeth, 3-1/2; and Eleanor, 1-1/2. As you can see from the names, we got so assimilated that Doug married a Methodist and I married a Catholic, although I think Catholics are still more or less Jewish; after all, even the pope wears a yarmulke. Maybe the bricklayer Gollins got lost somewhere, but it's still interesting to see how many Gollins are involved in basically intellectual pursuits. We don't have a web page, but we do have the 'gollin.com' domain name registered. As you can imagine we had a heated battle with multinationals fighting for the same domain, but Gollin & Co., a micromultinational trading company here in Houston, finally won out. I was thinking about starting a second career letting other Gollins on the Net use our domain, but somehow the demand has not been entirely overwhelming . . Aside from a Web address, where are you physically located ? I wander around the U. S. a lot (including Chicago ? is this where you're located) and maybe sometime we could nosh. All the best.
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From: IN%"egollin@psych.colorado.edu" "Eugene S. Gollin" 27-DEC-1995 13:58:09.74 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: IN%"SGOLLIN@AOL.COM", IN%"JGOLLIN@DELPHI.COM", IN%"73304.1534@COMPUSERVE.COM" Subj: RE: greetings, and more email from (non?)relatives We seem to be crawling with academics-whether or not we are related. Two more Gollins: Samuel Max age 8, and Hannah Ruth age 5 of Athens, GA, Children of David Gollin and Martha Davis Gollin. David is my son. Adam Gollin of Brighton, CO is also my son as is Ann Gollin of Losiville, CO. Gene Gollin, Emeritus, U. Colorado, Boulder. Happy Holidays to all.
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From: IN%"Tim@GOLLIN.COM" 27-DEC-1995 23:16:09.63 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: To GOLLIN@uihepa.HEP.UIUC.EDU Houston has been MY home for 15 years, and it is also flat and characterless. On my arrival, this Jew from New York was treated with all the friendliness and genuine interest accorded Sidney Poiter in Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, i. e. somewhere between sideshow freak and Protocol of the Elders of Zion, with two redeeming features: (i) for some reason, they all thought I could get them 'special deals on tickets to Broadway 'shows' (not, God forbid, plays), and (ii) my Yale degree and Yankee pedigree TO SOME DEGREE cancelled out my virtual sidecurls; in other words, it was good enough for ONE date but without touching, in case IT rubbed off, but not for a second date. On the other hand, this IS a state which not only bred Phil Gramm but also has embraced a new gun law which encourages people to carry concealed weapons, presumably based on the Darwinian idea that stupid people will be more likely to kill each other faster and thus improve the overall gene pool. After all, until about four or five years ago, it was OK to drive around in Texas with an open container of your favorite alcoholic beverage EVEN IF YOU WERE THE DRIVER. The good thing about these progressive policies is that enough people have killed each other to keep out a personal income tax . . What you are really telling me is that it is completely HOPELESS to think about coming to Champaign and also that if I were a little less lazy I would have figured that out from a map. FYI: Jerry Gollin was a couple of years behind me at Yale and is married, as you surmised, to Yvonne Gollin. His dad is Cy Gollin, who lives in Orange County and was a VP (I think) at Walter Darwin Teague, the big industrial design firm. Only met him once or twice but remember him as extremely nice. My folks, semi-retired, have globs of family history which they will ladle out on the slightest provocation. Another Gollin node is Goldie Gollin MIllstone, who is 80-something (87 ?) and was my grandfather's sister and has been married to my great-uncle Isadore Millstone for the last 60+ years. Isadore is my business partner and also the shining light/padrone of our clan subsect in terms of business success with a 60+ year career in construction (he built the first public housing project in the U. S., Busch Stadium in St. Louis where he has always lived, and made lots of contributions to rebuilding Israel). He and Goldie are our repositories of ancient lore, with a strong emphasis on Millstone/Apter background bu also plenty of stuff about Louis Gollin (Goldie's father) who was ALSO in the insurance business and sounds as if he might be a sibling of your grandfather. Our family looks more or less like this: Louis Gollin | Josh Gollin/Goldie Gollin Millstone | James + Jeff | Tim & Doug with apologies to the distaff side but in a text based interface my patience for hitting the space bar is limited. Doug was born in '62, I was born in '60, and my parents Jane and Jim are '32 and '34 respectively. So we are more or less generationally compatible. Jeff Gollin (my uncle) has a couple of kids, too - Stuart and Daniel; he's seven years younger than my father. My business is international trade, which means buying widgets in one part of the world and selling them to manufacturing companies on this side of the world; this falls in line with my college training, which was in medieval Italian literature (focus on Dante). I meant to be a writer but then I decided I wanted to make money, but I have a nice level of Jewish angst about being enslaved to Mammon, and that makes me want to be a writer again, which in turn makes me want to make money. Best regards.
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From: IN%"FFFF@db1.cc.rochester.edu" 30-DEC-1995 16:22:24.22 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: RE: more on the way after the New Year--- I've some info from my brother, keeper of certain archives, which may confirm or eliminate further possibilities of linkage, namely that my father's name appears on immigration, naturalization, social security searches, etc, as variously Golinski or Golinsky, or Galinski or Galinsky, until a court order submitted with naturalization papers decreed him Gollin. I take this to reflect the clerk-typists' educational levels, not his uncertainty. On the other hand, Date of Birth varies from 1880 to 1887, depending on the document's purpose (here I perceive no uncertainty, only personal advantage). Finally, his mother's name Socia, his father's Myron (my middle name, and I have never known why). I'm off to warmer clime, as is my wont, from Jan 5 until Jan 16. Thereafter we can resume this grope in the thick dark for common threads or ropes. Dick
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From: IN%"SGOLLIN@helix.hgen.pitt.edu" 2-JAN-1996 07:19:18.85 To: IN%"GOLLIN@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: RE: Are we related? JAMES GOLLIN IN MILWAUKEE IS A PHARMACIST AND A COUSIN OF MINE DEBORAH IS HIS WIFE FRANK GOLLIN WAS MY UNCLE FROM MADISON, DIED A FEW YEARS AGO, NERMA IS HIS WIFE. DAVID GOLLIN DIED, HUSBAND OF SHERRY, PARENTS OF NANCY AND SUSAN MARA IS A COUSIN. SUSAN MAY BE, NOT SURE MANY OTHER COUSINS IN MILWAUKEE WITH DIFFERENT NAMES WELL, THE MILWAUKEE/CHICAGO/CALIFORNIA GOLLIN FAMILY FROM WHICH I ARISE CAME FROM BETWEEN MINSK AND PINSK IN ABOUT 1903 TO MILWAUKEE VIA ELLIS ISLAND, WHERE THEY CHANGED IGOLNIKOV TO GOLLIN, I AM TOLD. AS A GENETICIST, I AM GOOD AT FAMILY TREES, BUT NO TIME RIGHT NOW. PERHAPS RICHARD AND I ARE RELATED, BUT NOT CLEAR AT THIS TIME. REGARDS AND KEEP IN TOUCH. THE PERSON WHO IN MY FAMILY DID THE TREE 10 OR 20 YEARS AGO IS SUSAN BURKE, NIECE OF JEFF GOLLIN, A COMPUTER PERSON WHO LIVES NEAR LA AND MUST HAVE HIS OWN WEB SITE, ALTHOUGH HE TOLD ME ONCE THAT HE ONLY DOES BIG COMPUTERS. DONT KNOW. HAVENT TALKED TO HIM IN A FEW YEARS. MY FIRST COUSIN. LATER, SUSANNE Susanne M. Gollin, Ph.D., FACMG Department of Human Genetics University of Pittsburgh Graduate School of Public Health 130 De Soto Street Pittsburgh, PA 15261 (412) 624-3018 (412) 624-3020 fax
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From: IN%"REDDOG623@aol.com" 8-JAN-1996 18:33:07.31 To: IN%"Gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: Are we related response In response to your question, are we related, I believe that we are. You contacted my oldest son, David Gollin, who is a first year law student at George Washington Univ. My name is Richard Jay Gollin, I am the son of William Gollin, who is the son of Alter Gollin. I live in Union N.J. I am the Executive Director of District Council 52 of the American Federation Of State County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), AFL-CIO, which is the Northern district of New Jersey. I am married with four children, David, Seth, a sophomore at Rutgers College, Rutgers University, Sarah, a junior at Union High School and Daniel who is in the eighth grade. My wife Barbara Arkus Gollin is from Bayonne N.J. and is a graduate of Douglas College. My father, William, died in 1988, he had two brothers Nathan (Nate) and Barry who now lives in Florida. There were three sisters, Etta, Sylvia, and Grace. All but Barry are deceased. I would be very interested in hearing from you regarding our family. If you are interested, I do more about my fathers family.
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From: IN%"SGollin@aol.com" 9-JAN-1996 23:13:36.42 To: IN%"REDDOG623@aol.com" CC: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU", IN%"gollin@humanitas.ucsb.edu", IN%"dgollin@atlas.socsci.umn.edu", IN%"egollin@psych.colorado.edu", IN%"ggollin@hubnet.buffalo.edu", IN%"jgollin@delphi.com", IN%"73304.1534@compuserve.com", IN%"tim@gollin.com" Subj: You are related! To: Richard Jay Gollin I am Sylvan Gollin, son of Harry Gollin who had four brothers, Alter being the oldest. In decreasing order of age they were Alter, Louis, Harry, George and Max. I live in Claremont, California. My wife is Emily Fitzgerald Gollin. My son Gerald is married to Yvonne Lanza and lives (temporarily) in Buffalo. They have one child, Nicholas, a one-year-old. In the early 1930's my immediate family lost contact with Alter's children except for Ethel (Etta?) whose married name was Rogow. I recall that she had siblings named Nathan, Barry and Grace. So you must indeed be a relative of George, Eugene, Alfred, Jim, Douglas, Tim and Gerry Gollin, the addresses on George's e-mail. Welcome aboard. Have you any information about Ethel's children? The oldest was Seymour. The last I knew was that he was living in the Waldorf Tower in NY. I think there is a younger daughter, too. My recollection is that she was or is a writer. I think I saw a review of a book by her and/or her husband in the NY Times some 20 years or so ago. They were active in labor politics so you may know them.
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From: IN%"JANEGOLLIN@delphi.com" 10-JAN-1996 17:08:10.76 To: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: Gollin family tree Dear George, As a Gollin-by-marriage (to James Gollin -- I'm the mother of Timothy and Douglas), I've been reading the e-mail you've conjured up. My computer program isn't up to converting my primitive family tree program to ASCII, so I'm printing out what I have an d sending it along to you by snail mail. As you'll see, I've added in what we've recently learned about you and your branch and Richard Jay and his branch. The tree is far from complete. But it does give an idea of how we're all related. Regards.
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From: IN%"REDDOG623@aol.com" 10-JAN-1996 19:40:10.02 To: IN%"Gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: Our Family Dear George, Here is some more information regarding our family; Alter married Rebecca Skolnick--Six children Etta married Mike Rogow-three children; Seymore-deceased. Robert married, porfessor at a University in Canada. Betty Ruth, married with two children and grandchildren. Nate married Martha-One son Jack married with four children. Barry married Sadie, four Children; Paula, Judy, Randi and Amy, many grandchildren. Sylvia (Sliv) married Jack Rosner, two daughters. Grace married Fred Gelman, two daughters, Joan and Margie. William married Rose Adler. There is or was a Gollin family in Bayonne, N.J., they owned a hardware store and a clothing store. The hardware store was owned by Izzy Gollin a cousin of my father. My father worked for P.Ballantine an Sons in Newark for over 30 years. He did not speak a great deal about his childhood, only that his mother died when he was very young.. He did tell me about working in his fathers coal yard. I grew up in Newark, N.J. and graduated from Jersey City State College where I also received an M.A.. I was married in 1970. Barbara and I just celebrated our 25th anniversary. Most of our time is now spent paying tution bills and attending swim meets and wrestling matches.. Our daughter, Sarah, swims, and our Son, Daniel, as did my other sons, wrestles twelve months a year. In case you were wondering,"Red Dog" is the name that my youngest son thought sounded good and he chose it as his name, since I know next to nothing about computers, I am stuck with it for the time being. Regards, Richard
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From: IN%"76712.1543@compuserve.com" 9-APR-1996 09:21:14.92 To: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: Another Gollin Surfaces Hello George: My name is Louis Gollin (lou_gollin@raytheon.com). I don't know if we are related. My father's family came from the same area in Russia as you mentioned. Family name originally was Eugulnikoff(sp?). My father, (Isreal) Irvine Gollin came to the US after WW1. He was one of 13 children, mostly girls. He married my mother Mary (Chiat) Gollin in Baltimore, Md. I was born 8/13/45, I have a sister, Phyllis, born 10/11/47. Our family moved from Baltimore to Las Angeles in 1959. We are Jewish. About me - I am 50 years old, was Bar Mitzvahed in Baltimore at Rogers Av. Synagogue (Orthodox). I attended L.A. Pierce College (Woodland Hills, CA), San Fernando State College (now Cal State Univ at Northridge) and Friends University, Wichita, KS. I have an A.A, Bachlor of Science - Human Resources Management and Master of Science in Management. Aviation is my chosen field; I hold an FAA Airframe and Powerplant Mechanics License / Commercial, Multi-engine, Pilot's License with Instrument Rating / Advanced, Instrument Ground Instructor License. I worked several tears as an Air Traffic Controller. My current position is Manager, Product Support Data Systems for Raytheon Aircraft, Wichita, KS. I am married, (Kathleen Marie) Kim (Brose) Gollin is my wife. We have two children, Cynthia Marie (16) and Eryn Michelle (12). I have one daughter Stephanie Joy Ellis from a previous life. She has recently given us our first grandchild, Samantha (6 months Since most of my father's siblings were girls our family did not produce a lot of Gollins. There are some cousins that live (d?) in the Milwaukee area. My Aunt Rose married a cousin, Walter Gollin. They lived in California, I believe from the 1940's until It's nice to know there are more Gollins around, even if we are not related. Lou Gollin
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From: IN%"76712.1543@compuserve.com" 9-APR-1996 09:29:05.64 To: IN%"gollin@POSTOFFICE.HEP.UIUC.EDU" CC: Subj: A Little From Lou Gollin Even though the spelling is not the same, phonetically it seems that I may have some common ancestors with Susanne M. Gollin. As I mentioned earlier, we had some cousins in the Milwaukee area. Igolnikov and Eugulnikoff would be pronounced the same way. Lou Gollin
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From: IN%"jgollin@ibm.net" 24-NOV-1996 19:27:31.78 To: IN%"egollin@psych.colorado.edu", IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu", IN%"jeffgollin@aol.com", IN%"gollin@ibm.net", IN%"Reddog623@aol.com", IN%"SGollin@aol.com", IN%"Tim@gollin.com" CC: Subj: Change of address, real and virtual Dear Gollins, Our boys know this, but belatedly let me pass on to everybody else that we've moved from the suburbs to New York City. New address: Jane and James Gollin 535 East 86 Street, 1C New York NY 10028-7533 Phone: 212-396-3375 (last 4 digits the same as our Martha's Vineyard number) new e-mail: Jane = janegollin@ibm.net Jim = jgollin@ibm.net Regards to all, Jim Gollin (James M.)
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From: IN%"Douglas.Gollin@williams.edu" "Douglas Gollin" 10-DEC-1996 10:42:05.93 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: (no subject) George: I've just looked at your Web page again, a year or so after the last time I glanced at it. It looks great, and I'll pass it along to my dad (Jim) for further comments and corrections. For instance, I'm pretty sure that the David Millstone who teaches English in Norwich VT isn't the same one who's a relative. Also, for updating purposes, Cheryl and I are now on the economics faculty at Williams College. My new email: dgollin@williams.edu. And my father's got a new email address: jgollin@ibm.net. I have to say also that there's an unlikely proportion of Gollins in academics... although maybe it's selection bias resulting from the relative distribution of internet users in the general population. I believe Lisa Gollin, at UHawaii, has a personal home page; she seems to be an ethnobotanist. And when I do a net search on "WhoWhere?", I come up with a bunch of other Gollins... There's also one who writes regularly for airline magazines. Anyway, you've done great work. Oh, and Cordelia's a cute kid! Regards, Doug Gollin
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From: IN%"lxgollin@hawaii.edu" "Lisa Gollin" 11-DEC-1996 21:09:08.92 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE: are we related? As I'm in the middle of my Ph.D. comprehensive exams, I can't give your question its full due. When the dust clears... Cheers, Lisa (perhaps a relation, perhaps not)
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From: IN%"sgollin@helix.hgen.pitt.edu" "Susanne M. Gollin" 12-DEC-1996 07:25:35.50 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE: family tree info updated FYI Dear george, I have a few more people for you from the milwaukee gollin family. By the way, I have a ph.d., not an m.d. minor correction. jdloeb@uci.edu susan_burke@es.xerox.com (who may have a geneology she did about 20 yrs ago) burke_barbara@mssmtp.lacoe.edu thanks for including us. susanne
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From: IN%"75023.2675@CompuServe.COM" "Michael A. Gollin" 12-DEC-1996 07:52:09.43 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE: family tree info updated FYI Dear George: Thanks for the note. What a club! I grew up thinking there were only a few Gollin families in the world and the e-revolution has turned up zillions. I searched the Compuserve directory and found some more. FYI, I live in Bowie, am an attorney specializing in intellectual property, am married and have two young Gollins. I am the middle child, first son of Richard and Rita Gollin of Rochester NY; Jim (on AOL) is my little brother who just had a baby this week (Noah Benjamin Gollin see be;ow). Albie is my uncle, Mark is my cousin ... Let's keep in touch. Michael A. Gollin Attorney Spencer & Frank Suite 300 East 1100 New York Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20005-3955 Phone: (202) 414-4072 Fax: (202) 414-4040 E-mail: spencerfrank@mcimail.com or 75023.2675@compuserve.com -------------------- Dear All: Noah Benjamin Gollin was born to James D. Gollin and Suzanne Brown on 10 December 1996 with a birth weight of 10 pounds and seven ounces. Mother, baby, and father are healthy and happy. Best, a new Dad
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From: IN%"ffff@db1.cc.rochester.edu" 12-DEC-1996 08:27:38.70 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: IN%"REDDOG623@AOL.COM", IN%"GOLLIND@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU", IN%"GOLLIN@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU", IN%"JGOLLIN@IBM.NET", IN%"TIM@GOLLIN.COM", IN%"DGOLLIN@WILLIAMS.EDU", IN%"JEFFGOLLIN@AOL.COM", IN%"SGOLLIN@AOL.COM", IN%"GGOLLIN@HUBNET.BUFFALO.EDU", IN%"CORDELIA@G Subj: RE: family tree info updated FYI I agree with Susanne. An awesome compendium. If we were all to begin cross-connecting with each other (for example, my father Morris had a store in Milwaukee, and Chicago relatives from when he lived there before 1934), we'd all go bananas. Or if we actually did factor in the spouses' families down the generations, fruit salad. There's yet another. Our son Jim (JGollin@AOL.COM, grandson of the Morris Gollin who emigrated here in 1905), and Suzanne Brown have just begotten Noah Benjamin Gollin, December 10 1996. The infant has no advanced degrees yet, unlike most of the rest of us. Dick Gollin Prof. Emeritus English and Film Studies, Univ. of Rochester
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From: IN%"burke_barbara@mssmtp.lacoe.edu" "Burke_Barbara" 12-DEC-1996 10:35:08.41 To: IN%"100304.1542@COMPUSERVE.COM", IN%"70674.3015@COMPUSERVE.COM", IN%"73304.1534@COMPUSERVE.COM", IN%"73561.2647@COMPUSERVE.COM", IN%"75023.2675@COMPUSERVE.COM", IN%"75242.1275@COMPUSERVE.COM", IN%"76355.2130@COMPUSERVE.COM", IN%"76712.1543@COMPUSERVE. CC: IN%"annam@ella.mills.edu" "Anna E. Moskowitz", IN%"Susan_Burke@es.xerox.com" "Burke,Susan", IN%"GBurke@csulb.edu" "Burke_G", IN%"CHATEAUJEF@AOL.COM" Subj: RE: family tree info updated FYI Hello All! George, thank you SO much for all your hard work. I am highly interested in all of this information. I am from the Milwaukee clan, first cousin of Susanne and Jim, sister of Jeff, and mother of Susan Burke (Susan_Burke@es.Xerox.com) and Gary Burke (GBurke@csulb.edu). Please add Susan to your e-mail list. She is about to begin doing additional work on our family tree. I will send more family tree info to you via another message, but just a bit of additional information. The family originated in Hulsk. My mother and father (Sol and Lillian) were second cousins. Walter and Rose were first cousins. Walter was my father's uncle. When my father came over from Russia (alone at a young age) he lived with Walter in Baltimore, then moved to Milwaukee. Walter and Rose moved to California. Susan and I are interested in developing a family e-mail address list. We would appreciate it if the Milwaukee clan receiving this would send us their addresses. I am particularly interested in hearing from anyone in the Israel Gollin family. Lou, are you in Southern California?? I recently visited Ellis Island and there was information available for a Gollin family from England. George, thank you again for all of your hard work. What a great way to start a new year! Barbara Gollin Burke (310) 867-3593) Southern California
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From: IN%"egollin@psych.colorado.edu" "Eugene S. Gollin" 13-DEC-1996 08:55:43.36 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" "George Gollin" CC: Subj: Thank you for the update. Did I tell you that there is a new Max Gollin. Born September 6, 1996 at St. Josephs Hospital in Denver to Adma M. Gollin and Theresa Spahn. We grandparents get to sit with him on Thursdays.
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From: IN%"jgollin@tattoo.ed.ac.uk" "J Gollin" 13-DEC-1996 19:09:24.30 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE: family tree info updated FYI Thank you for the information. My family is from Manchester. My father, the only son, Thomas Edward Gollin, emigrated to New Zealand in 1955 with myself and my brother, Anthony Edward Andrew Gollin, and had another son there, Sean Christopher David Albert Gollin. The elder of my brothers has four children, including two sons, and the younger has had his first child, a son, this year. He, my younger brother is a lawyer. The elder brother is an executive at Auckland International Airport. Both of them and my parents are resident in New Zealand but I have been based in Edinburgh for eleven years and only off and on in New Zealand before that since I graduated from Auckland University. Jacqueline Gollin
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From: IN%"Tim@gollin.com" 13-DEC-1996 22:22:54.78 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE> family tree info update What hath George wrought ? Little did I think that my casual contact last year was going to lead me into a netherworld, a demimonde of Gollins aimlessly mixing and mingling. Best for the holidays, Tim.
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From: IN%"egollin@psych.colorado.edu" "Eugene S. Gollin" 14-DEC-1996 10:59:15.55 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE: Congratulations! Thanks. I am sending some excerpts that need correction- 1.Max claims to have earned money from time to time by running errands for the local gamblers and prostitutes while he was growing up. Apparently, he could earn more than his father through this sordid line of work. When Simon discovered Max's money (and the source of his income), he beat the boy. After that, Max hid his cash in the stairwell, but it was often gone by morning. The household moved uptown, somewhere on Second Avenue in the "30's" while Max was still a teenager. {I told you this tale to indicate how awful the neighborhood was. Max was only 8 or 9 years old at the time. Running innocent errands did not seem terrible to a child. He father was right to stop it.It was thatsort of exposure that propmted the move uptown. Max left school after the fifth grade to go to work. I do not know if the other boys had much formal education. I doubt it. Sy would know about his Dad.My Dad was the most honorable human being I have ever known. All the boys were self-educated. Max introduced us (Fred, Rita and me) to the classics.) Max Gollin married Sue in January, 1921. Three children: Eugene Gollin (Gene), married Janet Sharp Sokoloff: Three children: Ann Gollin (works at Kaiser-Permanente as a PA in Westminster, CO David Gollin (Biochem Ph D from University of Georgia), lives in Athens, GA. married Martha Davis [Health Administrator]- U. of Georgia). Two children: Samuel Max Gollin (b. 1987) Hannah Ruth Gollin (b. 1990) Adam Gollin (attorney in Denver) married to Theresa Spahn,* Magistrate in Adams County Colorado. One child: Max Gollin (b.9/06/96, St Josephs Hosp., Denver, CO) Thanks. Hope you and family can visit some time.
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 14-DEC-1996 15:55:06.93 To: IN%"Douglas.Gollin@williams.edu" CC: GOLLIN Subj: RE: (no subject) Hi Doug, Yep, a lot of us have ended up as faculty. Congratulations on finding positions at Williams. We call this the "two body problem" in my end of the world. (I believe that was the title of a reasonably good novel from the late 70's about a mathematician and his wife, as well as a physics/math and who- knows-what-else reference.) There aren't very many faculty positions available and landing acceptable jobs for two people in the same place is quite an achievement! My impression is that the Williams undergraduates are quite bright, so they should be fun to teach. We just got a Christmas tree. This is one of the advantages of a mixed marriage: the tree is pretty, and in some fundamental sense is Melanie's, not mine. As a result, I get to play with the tree while avoiding the sense that I'm too assimilated. Cordelia plays along-- she likes all the doodads associated with the tree (she's 8 now), but secretly knows that the whole thing really is aimed at getting presents. In the original email message from Tim that got this whole family tree thing going, he asked about Gollin's from South Africa. Know anything about this? I sent Lisa Gollin some email, but she's about to take her graduate exams and is too busy/freaked out to look at the family tree information right now. Oh- I actually met one of the previously unknown (to me) relatives a few months ago. Cordelia and I went to a high energy physics workshop in Snowmass (a few miles west of Aspen) last summer for a couple of weeks, and flew into Denver. We drove to Boulder and met Eugene (Max's oldest son, and my first cousin once-removed) and Janet. Have a nice semester (quarter??) break- George
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From: IN%"SCG@rws.co.nz" 15-DEC-1996 13:38:38.63 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: gollin My name is Sean Gollin and I am a litigation solicitor in Auckland, New Zealand. My sister, Jaqueline Gollin who lives in Edinburgh, Scotland has forwarded your messages to me. I would like to participate and join on to any mailing list. As far as we are aware, we are the only Gollins in New Zealand. There are only three listings in the Auckland phone book: My father, Ted Gollin; my brother, Tony Gollin; and myself. My brother Tony has four children: Andrew, Emilie, Arian, and Jennifer. I have one, born on 23/8/96: Christopher Gollin. I am a first generation New Zealander, my family having emigrated here from Manchester, England in 1952. My father was the only male in his family and has two sisters still living: one in Manchester; the other in Shropshire. His father's name was Albert Gollin. I note from one of the messages my sister has forwarded to me (from Barbara Gollin Burke) that there is a reference to Gollins from England arriving at Ellis Island. I would be very interested in following that up to see if there is a connection with my branch. Sean Gollin scg@rws.co.nz Rudd Watts & Stone PO Box 3798 Auckland New Zealand ph:09 309 4863 fax:09 379 3326 3/117 Remuera Road Remuera Auckland New Zealand ph:09 523 1675
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From: IN%"SGollin@aol.com" 15-DEC-1996 22:13:30.99 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: The World of Gollins Dear George, I am overwhelmed by the plethora of Gollins in the US. And we may be seeing only the tip of the iceberg. I always thought Gollin was a very uncommon name and that our Gollins were the only ones in the country. By our Gollins I mean the five brothers (your grandfather, George, Morris aka Alter, Louis, Harry, my father, and Max) and their progeny. Obviously I was wrong. The mystery is why none of the brothers ever spoke of the other Gollins. Perhaps they were unaware of the others because the others are not closely related and had different points of origin in Europe. I think I passed along whatever info I had regarding our Gollins. The following is a summary as I know it: 1. The five brothers and their parents came to the US circa 1885 and settled in New York City Louis eventually moved to St. Louis and Alter went to Newark. 2. The father of the five (my grandfather, who died before I was born in 1921) had been in the Russina army, stationed for a while in Buenos Aires. He somehow deserted and migrated to the US. 3. As I said earlier, the five brothers and their progeny are the only Gollins I was aware of until a woman in London contacted me (via Jim Gollin) about Gollins in the UK and Europe, some of whom are Christians. I am convinced those Gollins are not related to us except perhaps way back in the early 19th century. 4. During a visit to Verona, Italy, I discovered a half dozen Gollins in the local telephone directory. Apparently Gollin is a fairly common name in Italy. I contacted many of the listed Gollins but none responded to my inquiries. They probably suspected a scam of some kind. 5. I do not know from where in Europe our Gollins came. But I have a clue. My father belonged to a funeral society ( a group that provided cemetery plots) and paid dues every month. I recall seeing the post cards that billed him every month. The society was called the Independent Minsker Brothers and was located in New York City. Does that imply an origin in Minsk? I don't know. I think I contacted the society when my father died in 1956 and that they indeed provided a burial plot. One of these days I'll search through my long neglected stamp collection and probably find some of the old post cards. I saved them because they had intersting imprints. The cards may provide other clues. The bottom line is that I think our Gollins are not related to the others from Milwaukee, Ohio, etc. However further investigation is needed to support my conjecture. Thanx for keeping me tuned in. The best to you and your family. Sy
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 15-DEC-1996 23:08:25.69 To: IN%"SGollin@aol.com" CC: GOLLIN Subj: RE: The World of Gollins Hi Sy, I received some email from a few of the English/Australian/New Zealander Gollins. They are from Manchester, though how far back their English roots extend I do not know. Are they Russian before then? I too suspect that the Milwaukee Gollins (Igolnikovs originally) are not related to us. The Gollins who were originally Galinsky's came, according to Richard M. Gollin, from Vladimir, which is quite a ways east of Moscow, different from our apparent Minsk. I have very little information concerning descendants of Simon's brothers. It seems they may have settled in California quite a while ago; there are a number of Gollins out there not yet linked to the families I know about. On the other hand, California is a wonderful place (I had a near miss on a tenured position at Berkeley! So close...), and people are willing to move there from elsewhere. Also, given the age difference between Alter and George, there are probably about a dozen of his descendants who are about my age, or somewhat younger, whose names are completely unknown to me. You had sent me copies of correspondance from England, and I keep running into an Italian race car driver named Fabriziano Gollin in web searches. There's a new web search site (www.hotbot.com) which seems to have more information from European source than AltaVista, the one I usually use, so there are new alleys for me to travel. I'll keep at this in fits and starts. As more of the world ends up on the worldwide web, this'll become easier. (Actually, at some point, there'll be too much information for me to collate as an occasional activity.) This is fun. More info as I find/collate it... George
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From: IN%"agollin@ix.netcom.com" 16-DEC-1996 09:10:03.20 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: gollin family site Hi, my sister (Rebecca Gollin) just told me about the website (you e-mailed her at University of VT). I guess we're related to you! I haven't had a chance to really look through the entire site, but I'm impressed so far. Also, I can fill you in a little bit on our family, which (I guess) is descended from Simon and Rachel and then from Nate and Martha. My father is Jack (b. 1932) and before I continue rambling I should ask you whether you want me to e-mail this or type it out and send it? Just let me know the most convenient form for you. Anyway, congratulations on getting the whole website together. Right now I'm working as an editor on a brand-new parenting website (www.smartkid.com) and I know the amount of work it takes to do this kind of thing. I've always been so curious about our family history, and I'm really grateful that this website exists. Thank you! Best, Andrea Gollin
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 16-DEC-1996 10:29:34.21 To: IN%"agollin@ix.netcom.com" CC: GOLLIN Subj: RE: gollin family site Hi Andrea, Greetings! Email would work fine: I can extract names/dates directly from your mail message that way. As much information as you can stand to type in would be welcome: names, dates, family anecdotes, maiden names, email addresses,... and I'll add them to the web info. Are you the Andrea who went to Princeton? If so, we overlapped there, and I never knew it! I was an assistant professor there from 1983 to 1988. I ran into someone named Gollin in a stereo store in town, perhaps when I was a grad student there (1975-1980), but he wasn't sure about where his ancestors were from, or what were the names of his (great?) grandparents. I have the impression that descendants of Alter and Rebecca (they were Nathan's parents) lost touch with the rest of the family. Perhaps Alter was a wild guy who split, maybe the geography just got in the way. I have been working on this in fits and starts, so the web site changes in bursts (usually associated with creative procrastination-- I have to grade 35 final exams for my physics majors starting this evening, a chore I like even less than raking leaves, so I'll probably find time to work on the web site some more.). I'm glad you sent me mail. More later- George Gollin
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From: IN%"agollin@ix.netcom.com" 16-DEC-1996 18:05:54.05 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE: gollin family site Dear George, I had a chance today to read over the website, and I printed it out to send to my father, who can probably fill in a lot of gaps. I'm not sure if you have my grandfather (Nathan) in the right family or not, but we'll find out soon. My father grew up in Newark, and had tons and tons of first cousins, many of whom were Gollins living in Bayonne. Anyway, he could tell you a lot of stories, I think. I know he's pretty interested in this, because a couple of years ago he and I sent away for one of those mail-order family trees, but it was really bad -- we returned it. I am that same person who went to Princeton, and I guess we were there at the same time -- I was there from 84 to 88 -- and in all that time I never got anywhere near a Physics class. I just remembered that a good friend of mine who was a Pysics major (Nasir Ali, also class of 88) told me about you, and suggested I contact you to see whether we were related, but I never followed up. I'm glad I'm getting another chance now. One of my cousins just got engaged to a Princeton Physics major named John O'Brien (class of 89). Also, I'm the same person who taught at University of Virginia (on your list on the website). Well, good luck with your grading. I guess it's that time of year, but at least there's a vacation around the corner! I will get back to you in a couple of days, after my father's input (he doesn't have e-mail--he may want to write or call you directly, but I'll find that out). Take care, Andrea Gollin
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From: IN%"patty@harriet.wustl.edu" "Patricia Gollin" 17-DEC-1996 13:24:29.41 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: reply George, Your updated web site is really interesting. I want to point out that my new email address is: patty@harriet.wustl.edu (so you need to correct that link in the page) Also, on our family tree... you are correct having "Paul Gollin" as a brother to Otto... but a 2nd "Paul Gollin" is Norman's brother (and Otto's son). James Gollin is correct as the 2nd Paul's son. make sense? Looks like my dad sent you all that info! It's funny that we came from different parts of the world and ended up with the same last name! Patty +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Patricia A. Gollin Box 1229 Department of Biology Washington University St. Louis, MO 63130 314-935-7593
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From: IN%"jgollin@tattoo.ed.ac.uk" "J Gollin" 17-DEC-1996 13:58:11.00 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE: family tree info updated FYI Yes, so do we. All my life I've been puzzled by the fact that people seem to have problems recognising my surname and call me anything else but that, most often Collins It has also surprised me that people recognise that it is unusual, since although it is relatively unusual, it seems so straightforward and very much like Collins, which is a common name. The earliest reference I have come across to it is to a de Golin (may have been a baron, I'de have to look it up again) in Kinrosshire in the thirteenth century. I also came across a reference to a knight called Gollin, spelt with a double l this time. I came across these references by chance when studying history rather than as part of research into the name. Subsequently I did come across a book of surnames and looked up Gollin and found it listed under names of Norman origin, so presumably it came to Britain with or after the Norman Conquest and then went to other countries when people from Britain emigrated overseas. My father's uncle with the name emigrated to Canada. Years ago, as preparation for an essay on English history, I came across a book on Balfour written by an Arthur or an Albert Gollin, I think the latter, so there was probably at least one family of Gollins already in Canada when my uncle emigrated. Thank you for your prompt reply. Jacqueline
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From: UIHEP::GOLLIN 17-DEC-1996 16:50:14.95 To: GOLLIN CC: Subj: copy of email to Jacqueline The history book may have been written by Alfred Gollin: an American with a long and distinguished career as a historian specializing in 20th century British history. He spent time at Oxford, and has been a historian at the University of California at Santa Barbara for a long time, having retired a couple of years ago. (He's my first cousin, once removed; he's probably the most distinguished of the academics in my branch of the Gollin universe.) more later- George
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From: IN%"BWKJ21A@prodigy.com" 23-DEC-1996 19:52:12.47 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: Gollin families Hello George, Your Home Page is a masterpiece on Gollin familie's genealogy. I enjoyed reading it. I would like to make a slight correction in the Michigan Gollin family shown pages 8 and 9 and will start with Gustav Rudolf Gollin. *Gustav Rudolf Gollin etc. **Otto Gollin ***Norman Gollin (b. 1917) married Mary Ann Nowack in 1958 ****Patricia A. Gollin ***Paul D. Gollin ****James P. Gollin president of etc. ****Robert Gollin ****Kenneth Gollin **Alma Gollin **Anna Gollin **Walter Gollin **Paul W. K. Gollin The bullet styles don't show up very well on my printout and others may have the same difficulty. I suggest that you start the bullets at the left hand margin and make a continuous row of then to the point where the generation begins. Thanks for keeping me on your mailing list. Norman
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From: IN%"agollin@ix.netcom.com" 21-JAN-1997 18:07:49.58 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: Hi: some information! Dear George, Hi and Happy New Year! I am finally getting around to sending you some more information about my family (not a lot, but some). This all goes under Jack Gollin (b.1932). He married Joan Dashoff (b. 1938). Jack is an insurance agent who lives in South Orange, NJ. Joan teaches English as a Second Language. The four children are: Andrea (b. 1966) and I live in Miami where I work as a journalist and editor, and currently edit the website www.smartkid.com. Michael (b. 1968), lives (mostly) in Bozeman, Montana, where he is a carpenter. Jennifer (b. 1971), lives in Denver, where she teaches 7th grade Rebecca (b. 1976), is a student at the University of Vermont in Burlington, Vt. That's all for now. Hope you are well! Take care, Andrea
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From: IN%"burke_barbara@mssmtp.lacoe.edu" "Burke_Barbara" 29-JAN-1997 09:42:19.87 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE: I've updated some of the Gollin families' web page info... I want to again thank you for all your hard work. I have been in contact with some of the "new" Gollins, especially some relatives in Southern California that I didn't know about and others who I plan to meet when they travel out this way. I am even considering changing back to my maiden name! I am really enthused about all of this. Your work is appreciated.......
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From: IN%"egollin@psych.colorado.edu" "Eugene S. Gollin" 30-JAN-1997 11:51:08.86 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: RE: I've updated some of the Gollin families' web page info... I noticed the Manchester, England reference relating to the New Zealand Gollin's. I remember a tale from childhood, to wit: Simon went to England as a possible place to settle and was working in a factory in Manchester. One Friday evening he and the other workers were locked in and forced to finish some work. He quit and left England. His reason, that he would not live in a country so barbaric as to lock workers in on the sabbath which starts at sundown on Friday.
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From: IN%"Andrea_Kowaz@classic.msn.com" "Andrea Kowaz" 22-AUG-1997 00:03:28.57 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: IN%"betmort@msn.com", IN%"rogow@sfu.ca" Subj: a message from Alter's greatgranddaughter. Dear Distant Cousin George. [this is my second attempt at e-mail...I am not completely expert at it so excuse me if you receive more than one..] I just received information about your website from my Aunt and Uncle (Betti [Rogow] and Mort Weisman) and was thrilled to read all about our family. What a wonderful (and effortful) job you have done. My name is Andrea Rogow Kowaz and I am the daughter of Robert Rogow who is the son of Michael and Etta (Gollin) Rogow. I will be sharing information about the site with my dad who will also be thrilled! I am actually named after Alter Gollin. My Hebrew name is Alta. Allow me to share some information about this part of the family. My father, Robert Rogow, middle child of Michael and Etta Rogow, was born in 1927 in Newark New Jersey. He is a Professor Emeritus at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, B.C., in the faculty of Business Administration. His specialty is labor relations. (He received his Ph.D. from NYU). He is a very nice fellow and (in my humble opinion) a very bright guy. He is an avid reader (especially history and science fiction). He has been married for 47 years to Sally (Levine) Rogow (born in Brooklyn). Sally is Professor Emerita at the University of British Columbia in the Department of Special Education and Educational Psychology. Her specialty is the severely multi-handicapped child and blind children. She is also pretty smart and a nice person. My name is Andrea Rogow Kowaz. I was born in 1956 in Forest Hills New York. (We all moved to Vancouver in 1966). I have a Ph.D. in clinical psychology and currently do consulting and private practice. I am also an adjunct professor at Simon Fraser University. I did my undergraduate work at Brandeis and have a M.A. from the University of Chicago. I married Joseph (Yossi) Kowaz in 1982. He is from Beer Sheva Israel. He owns/operates a commercial refrigeration company here in Vancouver. We have two children: Eli Walter Kowaz (b. 1990) and Ruth May Kowaz (b.1993). My sister is Fern Rogow Groman, currently of Seattle , Washington. Fern (b. 1952) has two girls : Rachel Tova Groman (b. 1985) and Emily Grace Groman (b. 1989). Fern is a speech pathologist and works at a number of Seattle hospitals and nursing homes, specializing in swallowing therapy. She is divorced from the girl's father so I don't need to say any more about him! I am sure my dad will also be in touch. I know that he was very close to his grandfather Alter (which is why I am so named). I know that he lived with them for a long time and they used to go to shul together frequently. I'm sure he will have more to say about that. Anyway, from what I know about this part of the family tree (my grandparents, Etta and Michael, my Uncle Seymour , may they rest in peace, and my aunt Betti and Uncle Mort...some very nice people. It is very exciting to learn more about the other branches and I thank you for your efforts in this regard. Warm Regards Andrea Rogow Kowaz
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From: IN%"rogow@sfu.ca" "bob rogow" 22-AUG-1997 15:45:50.74 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: Alter Gollin and family My daughter Andrea has sent me a copy of her Email message to you. I share her respect for the splendid job you've done with the family history web site. I believe that my sister Betti and her husband Mort have also sent you an Email, which I haven't seen, but which probably contains more and better info than I can recall. Alter owned and operated a livery stable in Newark, and then a coal delivery business. I have the impression that neither was spectacularly successful. I recall my mother saying that he was too kind-hearted to collect money owed him by his customers. His wife Rebecca died at age 42, at about the time that Etta, their oldest child, married Michael. Etta took on a mothering role toward her younger siblings, who I recall living with us for short periods. Alter lived with us for many years, until his death. I recall him fondly. Memories of his taking me to shul during the high holy days, of his conducting the Passover Seder every year, and taking me to the "shvitz' (turkish baths) at Coney Island are happy ones. Michael worked as an accountant for the Thomas Edison company--their first Jewish employee. He became a CPA and went into private practice. Later he went into the molded rubber and plastic manufacturing business (with Seymour, and later Mort).Etta died in 1988, at age 89. Michael died in 1995, at age 97. With warmest regards from Sally and myself, Bob Rogow
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From: IN%"Andrea_Kowaz@classic.msn.com" "Andrea Kowaz" 22-AUG-1997 00:03:28.57 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: IN%"betmort@msn.com", IN%"rogow@sfu.ca" Subj: a message from Alter's greatgranddaughter. Dear Distant Cousin George. I just received information about your website from my Aunt and Uncle (Betti [Rogow] and Mort Weisman) and was thrilled to read all about our family. What a wonderful (and effortful) job you have done. My name is Andrea Rogow Kowaz and I am the daughter of Robert Rogow who is the son of Michael and Etta (Gollin) Rogow. I will be sharing information about the site with my dad who will also be thrilled! I am actually named after Alter Gollin. My Hebrew name is Alta. Allow me to share some information about this part of the family. My father, Robert Rogow, middle child of Michael and Etta Rogow, was born in 1927 in Newark New Jersey. He is a Professor Emeritus at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, B.C., in the faculty of Business Administration. His specialty is labor relations. (He received his Ph.D. from NYU). He is a very nice fellow and (in my humble opinion) a very bright guy. He is an avid reader (especially history and science fiction). He has been married for 47 years to Sally (Levine) Rogow (born in Brooklyn). Sally is Professor Emerita at the University of British Columbia in the Department of Special Education and Educational Psychology. Her specialty is the severely multi-handicapped child and blind children. She is also pretty smart and a nice person. My name is Andrea Rogow Kowaz. I was born in 1956 in Forest Hills New York. (We all moved to Vancouver in 1966). I have a Ph.D. in clinical psychology and currently do consulting and private practice. I am also an adjunct professor at Simon Fraser University. I did my undergraduate work at Brandeis and have a M.A. from the University of Chicago. I married Joseph (Yossi) Kowaz in 1982. He is from Beer Sheva Israel. He owns/operates a commercial refrigeration company here in Vancouver. We have two children: Eli Walter Kowaz (b. 1990) and Ruth May Kowaz (b.1993). My sister is Fern Rogow Groman, currently of Seattle , Washington. Fern (b. 1952) has two girls : Rachel Tova Groman (b. 1985) and Emily Grace Groman (b. 1989). Fern is a speech pathologist and works at a number of Seattle hospitals and nursing homes, specializing in swallowing therapy. She is divorced from the girl's father so I don't need to say any more about him! I am sure my dad will also be in touch. I know that he was very close to his grandfather Alter (which is why I am so named). I know that he lived with them for a long time and they used to go to shul together frequently. I'm sure he will have more to say about that. Anyway, from what I know about this part of the family tree (my grandparents, Etta and Michael, my Uncle Seymour , may they rest in peace, and my aunt Betti and Uncle Mort...some very nice people. It is very exciting to learn more about the other branches and I thank you for your efforts in this regard. Warm Regards Andrea Rogow Kowaz
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From: IN%"rogow@sfu.ca" "bob rogow" 22-AUG-1997 15:45:50.74 To: IN%"gollin@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" CC: Subj: Alter Gollin and family My daughter Andrea has sent me a copy of her Email message to you. I share her respect for the splendid job you've done with the family history web site. I believe that my sister Betti and her husband Mort have also sent you an Email, which I haven't seen, but which probably contains more and better info than I can recall. Alter owned and operated a livery stable in Newark, and then a coal delivery business. I have the impression that neither was spectacularly successful. I recall my mother saying that he was too kind-hearted to collect money owed him by his customers. His wife Rebecca died at age 42, at about the time that Etta, their oldest child, married Michael. Etta took on a mothering role toward her younger siblings, who I recall living with us for short periods. Alter lived with us for many years, until his death. I recall him fondly. Memories of his taking me to shul during the high holy days, of his conducting the Passover Seder every year, and taking me to the "shvitz' (turkish baths) at Coney Island are happy ones. Michael worked as an accountant for the Thomas Edison company--their first Jewish employee. He became a CPA and went into private practice. Later he went into the molded rubber and plastic manufacturing business (with Seymour, and later Mort).Etta died in 1988, at age 89. Michael died in 1995, at age 97. With warmest regards from Sally and myself, Bob Rogow
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From: IN%"egollin@psych.colorado.edu" "Eugene S. Gollin" 25-AUG-1997 14:33:35.48 To: IN%"GOLLIN@postoffice.hep.uiuc.edu" "George Gollin 217.333-4451 /" CC: Subj: RE: updated the web page for us... I believe that Simon and Morris were brothers. Alter, Louis, Harry, George and Max were cousins of Henry and were Morris'nephews. Helen, now I remember was Norman's sister and there was a brother. Their mother was Rose married to Henry. Something happened to the marriage and Rose and the children moved to California. They were friendly with my sister Rita who may have more info than I do. Rose had some kind of a sewing machine business that one of Helen's brothers took over. Rose was friendly with my mother. She remarried, I think because when we lived in Glen Cove, LI in the late '50s and early "60s Rose and her new husband stopped by to say hello. My mother was visiting us at the time. I remember Morris from childhood. He was, to my then eyes, very old and an invaled. He patted me on the head. What I remember most sharply was his erect sitting pose and his almost ivory colored skin including his very bald head. When I was in China during the war I saw carved ivory with that sheen and coloration. Strange what kids remember.
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From: IN%"iig0843@gest.unipd.it" To: IN%"g-gollin@uiuc.edu" Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:13:48 +0100 (MET) Hello Mr G.Gollin, I am a student of gestional engineer in VICENZA University (ITALY), my name is GIANMARCO GOLLIN and I live in Castelfranco Veneto (Treviso) ITALY. Navigating in INTERNET I saw that you have the same surname as me; maybe for you my surprise is strange but here we are very very less persons with this surname. Could you please give me an answer for my couriosity? As you can imagine I had some questions. Anyway I can send my best regards.
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email from: KirstinBra@aol.com December 25, 1999 Hello George Gollin, My name is Kirstin Gollin (I married this year, now my name is Bradtke) and maybe I can give you some facts from the german family. My grandfather Ernst-Karl-heinz Gollin lived in Berlin and was married with Martha Ziehm. He had two brothers - one was named Albert - and together they had a bakery-shop in Berlin - Charlottenburg called "Gollin- Brot" and between 1930-1950 Gollin - Bread was well known in Berlin! Then the brother got in conflikt zu each other and sold the bakery. (I can get more informations from my father, if you want). Ernst-Karl-Heinz Gollin has 4 sons: Heinz, Bernhard, Gustav and Manfred Gollin. Heinz is my father, Gustav died 2 years ago (feel still sorry about that), Bernard still lives in Berlin and Manfred lives in Irvine, California. My Father Heinz has 2 children,Volker and Kirstin (that´s me). My father was born at the 24. May 1931. He married Hannelore Velmeden and their live in Monchengladbach (near to the netherlands) in Germany. My brother Volker Gollin is also married. He is 37 years old in lives in Frankfurt am Main/Germany. I am 31 years old and married this year Gerd Bradtke. I am a teacher for nurses and been living in Grevenbroich/Germany (near to my parents). I am not sure, if you want all this informations, but if you want more I would like to find out all of my father's family that you want. Now I go to my parents (it´s the 1. christmas-day) eating a big, big carp and tell them all about your homepage. He is very interested in family history and he himself knows much about our history! At least I wish you and your family amerry christmas and a happy new year- and please excuse my english ! I am looking forward to an answer of you!!!! email: KirstinBra@aol.com adress: Kirstin Gollin Freiherrenstraße 61 41515 Grevenbroich Germany phone: 02181/499 535 fax: 02181/ 24 85 38
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email from: jonathan.pincus@adelaide.edu.au March 26, 2000 Dear Professor Gollin, You possess an honored name. I often get mail addressed to Professor George Gollin, from people who confuse me with the generous donor. The title I hold was previously held by four profs, all still living, including Harold Lydall who is in his eighties and published a book in theoretical economics last year, which received good reviews; and Peter Karmel, who became the Vice-Chancellor (ie 'president') of the Australian National University. George Gollin was a businessman here in Adelaide, who settled in the UK for retirement. In 1930, he bequeathed monies for a chair in economics, to be paid on the death of his wife, who died in the 1950s. After the family sold their business, which closed down, the corporate structure was sold as a shell company called Gollin Holdings. This shell was used by someone entirely unconnected with the Gollins, who was a crook and who was jailed for corporate fraud in the 1970s. Adelaide University was founded in 1875 on a bequest from a local businessman, but was a state university from the start. Cheers, -------------------------------------------------------------- JONATHAN PINCUS George Gollin Professor of Economics The University of Adelaide jonathan.pincus@adelaide.edu.au Convenor, Academic Board convenor.ab@adelaide.edu.au tel: 618 8303-3361 or -4464 -------------------------------------------------------------- "Gollin, George" wrote: > > Dear Professor Pincus, > > To my surprise, I discovered that I share the same name as your professorship! > Gollin is a rare name in the United States-- I believe there are four or > five distinct Gollin families in the United States-- and we seem to be > overrepresented in academia. (I'm a professor of physics at the University > of Illinois in Urbana-Champaign; several of my somewhat distant cousins are > also university professors.) > > regards, > George Gollin